We miss out on some of the best cars period. I would love to be able to buy a Hilux or a real Land Cruiser or even a Jiminy.
Yell at Toyota to go through homologation because they aren't up to US standards.
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#22We miss out on some of the best cars period. I would love to be able to buy a Hilux or a real Land Cruiser or even a Jiminy.
The US is getting the all new singing dancing Toyota Land Cruiser (2024) https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/land-cruiser but not (yet, that I know of) the new old Land Cruiser (1984) (2024) rerelease https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46001237/toyota-land-crui... If the Land Cruiser 70 is your idea of a "real" Land Cruiser then you'll need a friend in Japan, Australia, or South Africa (for now).
I daily drive a 100 Series and I have for many years.
The new Land Cruiser would never be an option for me but I am strongly considering the new GX for a commuter while keeping the 100 Series for recreation.
Yes the 70 is what I would love to have.
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#23We don't need a $1,200 Chinese electric deathtrap to accelerate EV buying, we need a better charging network. Range anxiety and reliability are the factors that have put EV purchases in a slump (not to mention interest rates). The article itself acknowledges this briefly: "one of the biggest challenges that EVs face here is not the cars; it’s the chargers. In America, charging stations are still too hard to find, and…
Lots of people who bike around would like a $1,200 EV I bet. We don't currently care too much about the death trap that is a bicycle on American roads, so a Chinese EV death trap should be okay too.
The thing is they already have that. It’s called an e-bike.
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#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
The answer to “why can’t we do things China does” is we decided a long time ago that we value environmental and worker protection more than China does.
I don't see how China focusing on building EV cars is somehow weakening worker protections or damaging the environment more than building ICE cars. They have issues, but none of that is related to the topic of the article.
You can sell your cars much cheaper if you barely pay the workers and don't invest in safety equipment.
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#25We don't need a $1,200 Chinese electric deathtrap to accelerate EV buying, we need a better charging network. Range anxiety and reliability are the factors that have put EV purchases in a slump (not to mention interest rates). The article itself acknowledges this briefly: "one of the biggest challenges that EVs face here is not the cars; it’s the chargers. In America, charging stations are still too hard to find, and…
The 1200$ chinese deathtrap that doesn't exceed 25mph is likely safer than: - all golf cars - all ATVs - all mopeds - all motorcycles
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#26We don't need a $1,200 Chinese electric deathtrap to accelerate EV buying, we need a better charging network. Range anxiety and reliability are the factors that have put EV purchases in a slump (not to mention interest rates). The article itself acknowledges this briefly: "one of the biggest challenges that EVs face here is not the cars; it’s the chargers. In America, charging stations are still too hard to find, and…
Maybe not $1200 but something in like an electrified Toyota Yaris/Mazda 2 hatchback the ballpark of $15000-$25000 sure would be nice. I like the look of the 2024 Fiat 500e but that $34000 MSRP is difficult to justify for a practical little town errand car.
Bolt EV is around $27K and believe Nissan Leaf is also in the same price range. So, with taxes you are look at max $30K. If you qualify for the federal tax credit, then you should be able to get that well within your price range.
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#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Lots of people who bike around would like a $1,200 EV I bet. We don't currently care too much about the death trap that is a bicycle on American roads, so a Chinese EV death trap should be okay too.
The thing is they already have that. It’s called an e-bike.
I like not getting wet when it rains.
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#29We don't need a $1,200 Chinese electric deathtrap to accelerate EV buying, we need a better charging network. Range anxiety and reliability are the factors that have put EV purchases in a slump (not to mention interest rates). The article itself acknowledges this briefly: "one of the biggest challenges that EVs face here is not the cars; it’s the chargers. In America, charging stations are still too hard to find, and…
It's only a deathtrap because driving in the USA you have to share a massive high speed interstate with 2.5 ton SUVs and pickups. With lower speed local driving (the type that would be enabled by more density), and without subsidizing monstrous american-style cars, I think these smaller EVs would be quite reasonable safety wise.
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#30Lack of homologation is why. Every car manufacturer who wants to sell in the US must do it.
We have homologated Chinese EVs here in Europe. The actual reason that China does not export cars to the US is a 27.5% import tariff put in place by the Trump administration.
https://www.politico.eu/article/china-us-europe-electric-car...