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America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars

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Re: America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars

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Post by datavirtue »

m463 wrote: post #6
swalling wrote: post #2

We don't need a $1,200 Chinese electric deathtrap to accelerate EV buying, we need a better charging network. Range anxiety and reliability are the factors that have put EV purchases in a slump (not to mention interest rates). The article itself acknowledges this briefly: "one of the biggest challenges that EVs face here is not the cars; it’s the chargers. In America, charging stations are still too hard to find, and…

Looks like they are all $10k anyway https://www.changliev.com/

Americans need 20" rims or it ain't happening. Unfortunately that drops the range down to ten miles.

Re: America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars

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Post by grandma_tea »

biotopia wrote: post #8
swalling wrote: post #2

We don't need a $1,200 Chinese electric deathtrap to accelerate EV buying, we need a better charging network. Range anxiety and reliability are the factors that have put EV purchases in a slump (not to mention interest rates). The article itself acknowledges this briefly: "one of the biggest challenges that EVs face here is not the cars; it’s the chargers. In America, charging stations are still too hard to find, and…

agreed, also, what is with all these articles written/submitted in favor of Chinese EVs in US? do they not know we are currently fighting an indirect war with China, with China supplying Russia's invasion against Europe being supplied by US? do they not know China is basically the backer for Houthi, Iran, North Korea, and Russia?

I didn't read the whole article because of the paywall, but I was taking it from the angle of "why can't we encourage this kind of development in America?" As opposed to "we should import Chinese cars."

I am frustrated by it because I feel like we could be doing better. I mean, the best thing would be to invest in public transport but I would also be happy with more cheap car offerings.

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

swalling wrote: post #2

We don't need a $1,200 Chinese electric deathtrap to accelerate EV buying, we need a better charging network. Range anxiety and reliability are the factors that have put EV purchases in a slump (not to mention interest rates). The article itself acknowledges this briefly: "one of the biggest challenges that EVs face here is not the cars; it’s the chargers. In America, charging stations are still too hard to find, and…

The 1200$ chinese deathtrap that doesn't exceed 25mph is likely safer than:

- all golf cars

- all ATVs

- all mopeds

- all motorcycles

Re: America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars

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Post by ralph84 »

grandma_tea wrote: post #12
biotopia wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

agreed, also, what is with all these articles written/submitted in favor of Chinese EVs in US? do they not know we are currently fighting an indirect war with China, with China supplying Russia's invasion against Europe being supplied by US? do they not know China is basically the backer for Houthi, Iran, North Korea, and Russia?

I didn't read the whole article because of the paywall, but I was taking it from the angle of "why can't we encourage this kind of development in America?" As opposed to "we should import Chinese cars." I am frustrated by it because I feel like we could be doing better. I mean, the best thing would be to invest in public transport but I would also be happy with more cheap car offerings.

The answer to “why can’t we do things China does” is we decided a long time ago that we value environmental and worker protection more than China does.

Re: America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars

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Post by [deleted] »

defrost wrote: post #10
hollywood_court wrote: post #9

We miss out on some of the best cars period. I would love to be able to buy a Hilux or a real Land Cruiser or even a Jiminy.

The US is getting the all new singing dancing Toyota Land Cruiser (2024) https://www.caranddriver.com/toyota/land-cruiser but not (yet, that I know of) the new old Land Cruiser (1984) (2024) rerelease https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a46001237/toyota-land-crui... If the Land Cruiser 70 is your idea of a "real" Land Cruiser then you'll need a friend in Japan, Australia, or South Africa (for now).

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Re: America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars

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Post by CharlieDigital »

ralph84 wrote: post #15
grandma_tea wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I didn't read the whole article because of the paywall, but I was taking it from the angle of "why can't we encourage this kind of development in America?" As opposed to "we should import Chinese cars." I am frustrated by it because I feel like we could be doing better. I mean, the best thing would be to invest in public transport but I would also be happy with more cheap car offerings.

The answer to “why can’t we do things China does” is we decided a long time ago that we value environmental and worker protection more than China does.

I don't see how China focusing on building EV cars is somehow weakening worker protections or damaging the environment more than building ICE cars. They have issues, but none of that is related to the topic of the article.

Re: America Is Missing Out on the Best Electric Cars

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Post by [deleted] »

swalling wrote: post #2

We don't need a $1,200 Chinese electric deathtrap to accelerate EV buying, we need a better charging network. Range anxiety and reliability are the factors that have put EV purchases in a slump (not to mention interest rates). The article itself acknowledges this briefly: "one of the biggest challenges that EVs face here is not the cars; it’s the chargers. In America, charging stations are still too hard to find, and…

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