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Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr is the only payment network I've ever used that lets you send payments of less than $0.10.

Nostr really feels to me like the blockchain: Nobody that advocates for it understands what it is or how it works.

Bitcoin uses secp256k1, Nostr uses secp256k1. I was surprised as anyone to learn that when you exchange money using Nostr clients it is not directed at the private key that you use to sign Nostr messages.

Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr really feels to me like the blockchain: An incredible novel solution desperately in search of a problem to solve. The engineering behind this is neat, but I have no idea why this is useful.

Nostr is everything that fediverse social networks claim to be, but aren’t. I was shocked to find out that the Lemmy instance I signed up on was blocking dozens upon dozens of other instances, which defeats the entire purpose of a federated network.

Then switch to a different one, the point of a federated network is that anyone is able to talk to anyone, not that they have to.

Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr really feels to me like the blockchain: An incredible novel solution desperately in search of a problem to solve. The engineering behind this is neat, but I have no idea why this is useful.

Nostr is everything that fediverse social networks claim to be, but aren’t. I was shocked to find out that the Lemmy instance I signed up on was blocking dozens upon dozens of other instances, which defeats the entire purpose of a federated network.

This is a strawman argument. The biggest advocateds of federated social media are not promising a fully decentralized and censorship-proof network. Federation is built on trust, and blocking untrustworthy instances is a critical function of any open federated system.

There is another side of the Fediverse that operates on the principles you are talking about (eg. Poast, Baest, Spinster, Gleasonator, NoAgendaSocial, NicecrewDigital, et al). That part of the Fediverse, like Nostr, is covered in Lolicon, gore, and Nazi memes because that's the userbase you get when you promise that nobody can stop you from posting whatever you want.

More and more I am learning that the people who desire censorship-free social spaces are the kind of people that others rightfully exclude from polite social spaces, because these are people who lack respect and want to say and do horrible things without opposition.

Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr is everything that fediverse social networks claim to be, but aren’t. I was shocked to find out that the Lemmy instance I signed up on was blocking dozens upon dozens of other instances, which defeats the entire purpose of a federated network.

Then switch to a different one, the point of a federated network is that anyone is able to talk to anyone, not that they have to.

You must realize that the moment you say “just switch to another” you’ve lost 99% of your potential user base.

It took me signing up for Lemmy to realize why Lemmy is still a completely dead network.

Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr really feels to me like the blockchain: Nobody that advocates for it understands what it is or how it works.

Bitcoin uses secp256k1, Nostr uses secp256k1. I was surprised as anyone to learn that when you exchange money using Nostr clients it is not directed at the private key that you use to sign Nostr messages.

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Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Bitcoin uses secp256k1, Nostr uses secp256k1. I was surprised as anyone to learn that when you exchange money using Nostr clients it is not directed at the private key that you use to sign Nostr messages.

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Your condescending bone-to-pick attitude about people using cryptocurrency is kind of cringe.

Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr really feels to me like the blockchain: An incredible novel solution desperately in search of a problem to solve. The engineering behind this is neat, but I have no idea why this is useful.

I tried nostr and I was impressed by how fast it is compared to the alternatives and by how seamless it is to connect to everyone. Unfortunately I'm not interested by the current content and I'm not sure a social media without censorship is viable on large scale

Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr really feels to me like the blockchain: Nobody that advocates for it understands what it is or how it works.

Bitcoin uses secp256k1, Nostr uses secp256k1. I was surprised as anyone to learn that when you exchange money using Nostr clients it is not directed at the private key that you use to sign Nostr messages.

I'm surprised by this too.

Bitcoin was developed just barely before ed25519 was finalized, which is probably why it uses secp256k1. Unless intended mainly for government users (FIPS), almost every new cryptographic system uses ed25519 -- except Nostr.

I always assumed Nostr chose secp256k1 so you could send bitcoin to another Nostr user without some extra "payment address request protocol" bolted on the side. Very surprising that this was not the motivation!

Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr really feels to me like the blockchain: An incredible novel solution desperately in search of a problem to solve. The engineering behind this is neat, but I have no idea why this is useful.

I found Ryabitsev's 2019 meditation [0] about maybe using git with secure scuttlebutt interesting (though not terribly compelling). Ryabitsev's fantasy scenario involves a developer exchanging git patches for a particular project via phones, to a laptop. Because that person uses secure scuttlebutt, the bug tracking thread is part of the enabling software, rather than out of band. I am of the impression that Ryabitsev's history as mailing list manager and software patch attestation more likely informed this dalliance than typical web3 inroads.

[0] https://people.kernel.org/monsieuricon/patches-carved-into-d...

Re: Gitstr: Send and receive Git patches over Nostr

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Nostr really feels to me like the blockchain: An incredible novel solution desperately in search of a problem to solve. The engineering behind this is neat, but I have no idea why this is useful.

I tried nostr and I was impressed by how fast it is compared to the alternatives and by how seamless it is to connect to everyone. Unfortunately I'm not interested by the current content and I'm not sure a social media without censorship is viable on large scale

> I'm not sure a social media without censorship is viable on large scale

Right, it absolutely isn't. Some form of censorship is vital. This claim becomes more agreeable when substituting "censorship" with the almost-synonymous word "moderation".

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