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After Raspberry Pi, OpenAI and Processing Foundation I'll never trust a "non-profit" again
"non-profit" is a tax status, that's all
Regardless, the Raspberry Pi for-profit arm has existed for over a decade now; the only news is that it wants to IPO.
I'm surprised Hock Tan hasn't sued Eben Upton for ip infringement
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in this context what makes a difference if it is a Chinese companies abandoning the product vs a British company. Is china the only nations making "trash".... Further your video shows off several replacements with 1 having some kind of incompatibility with some carrier boards... Personally I have never been a fan of the Compute Module form factor anyway.. I prefer the full SBC boards. I think the Compute Module form…
The British company hasn't abandoned anything. The Raspberry Pi 1 still has full, modern, feature-parity support in Raspberry Pi OS, eleven years after launch. But fine-- in my trash bin you'll find a Cubietruck, an Asus Tinkerboard, a MangoPi MQ-Pro, and several other Chinese SoC compute sticks. Fool me once, shame on you; fool me 5 times, shame on me. All were basically given up on by the original manufacturer, and…
Meanwhile the only problem I ever had with Raspberry Pi boards was a camera socket that eventually went bad on one RPi3... and this is across probably 12-15 boards. The software support has always been there, and the hardware itself has always been pretty solid. And this is despite the fact that they use a weird closed Broadcom chipset with a weird architecture and weird bootup sequence.
They have a decent brand name and mindshare but I don’t think the hardware is compelling enough. Loads of copy cats and the 5 generation feels like it’s at the edge of what the market can bear pricing wise. Idk I just don’t see the IPO rationale
Not saying they're all universally garbage, but you get what you pay for: the RPi folks manage cost very carefully, whereas most of the copycats are just trying to undercut on price, and will never follow through with the kind of software support the RPi folks continue to provide after over a decade. Consider that the original Raspberry Pi 1 model -- released 12 years ago -- is still fully supported by Raspberry Pi OS. I'd be surprised if most of the copycats support their boards for more than a few years at most.
RPi's for-profit arm mostly deals with B2B sales, and courts the kinds of customers that require long-term support as table stakes. I don't think most of them would touch the copycats with a 10-foot pole.
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"non-profit" is a tax status, that's all
Right, I wish people would remember that. Sure, non-profit is usually a good tax status for charities and other public-benefit type organizations. But that doesn't mean all non-profits are charities. Regardless, the Raspberry Pi for-profit arm has existed for over a decade now; the only news is that it wants to IPO.
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> You've got it the wrong way around. I don't see how it is the wrong way around: what you are saying is that they are a for-profit, and depending on how much profit they make with their business, the foundation gets more money to "play with", right?
Well, where else is the foundation supposed to get the money from?
They have a decent brand name and mindshare but I don’t think the hardware is compelling enough. Loads of copy cats and the 5 generation feels like it’s at the edge of what the market can bear pricing wise. Idk I just don’t see the IPO rationale
I've only tried one or two copycats, but found them to be kinda crappy. And I see a lot of other reports of others' experiences that seem to back that up. Not saying they're all universally garbage, but you get what you pay for: the RPi folks manage cost very carefully, whereas most of the copycats are just trying to undercut on price, and will never follow through with the kind of software support the RPi folks cont…
>whereas most of the copycats are just trying to undercut on price
Some of them, at the premium end its the other way round. Copy cats are fielding much better hardware...at a price premium. e.g. pi5 vs orange pi 5+
8gb max vs 32gb max
1gbe vs 2.5gbe
sd card vs native nvme
BCM2712 vs RK3588
pcie gen 2 vs pcie gen 3
16nm lith vs 8nm
That's not to hate on the rasp...but they're just not in as strong a position anymore as they were in early pi3/4 days where they were the only game in town and competitively priced to boot.
Wasn't it supposed to be a charity/non profit foundation? Isn't an IPO kinda the opposite of that? Or is is the fashionable thing these days to claim to be non-profit when you're young and looking for grassroots support, only to transform when there is money to be made?
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I for one and willing to live with the egg on my face if you actually prove this. I am extremely, extremely skeptical that you are truthfully and wholly representing whatever situation you are referring to.
As I say, its fairly hard to demonstrate 'live' as they delete the posts, but if it helps here's a few reports of it, and related activities: - https://community.element14.com/products/raspberry-pi/f/foru... (lots of similar reports of weird bans) - https://www.eevblog.com/forum/chat/raspberry-pi-forums-banne... (a few people reporting similar cases / reasons for being banned here) - https://forums.raspberrypi.com/vi…
I've banned people a as moderator, and some of them have gone on to spread complete falsehoods about this. While I'm not saying there is not a problem or that all accounts are incorrect, I find it very hard to trust these accounts from random anonymous internet people. Especially not the type of person who goes off on rants that RaspberryPi is all a scam from Broadcom (or ... something) because that seems exactly the sort of person that should be banned.
Hell, one of those links was just a new user mistakenly banned because they looked like a spambot, which was resolved quickly. That sort of thing that happens all the time. Did you even read your own links?
They have a decent brand name and mindshare but I don’t think the hardware is compelling enough. Loads of copy cats and the 5 generation feels like it’s at the edge of what the market can bear pricing wise. Idk I just don’t see the IPO rationale
I've only tried one or two copycats, but found them to be kinda crappy. And I see a lot of other reports of others' experiences that seem to back that up. Not saying they're all universally garbage, but you get what you pay for: the RPi folks manage cost very carefully, whereas most of the copycats are just trying to undercut on price, and will never follow through with the kind of software support the RPi folks cont…
1- https://www.acmesystems.it/FOXLX
> And I see a lot of other reports of others' experiences that seem to back that up.
There's a lot of misinformation about other hardware, especially on some forums, and I'd be extremely suspicious about the authenticity of some comments.