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The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by corindallax »

foobarian wrote: post #6

I kinda still don't see the problem. If you don't like it make your own phone.

Many things about Apple phones annoy me:

* App store restrictions.

* I want a phone I can use one-handed. 4 inches is the largest screen I could tolerate.

* No removable battery?

Why is it that no manufacturer will come along and make something better? Every year I look at other options. There are none that meet even one of my requirements.

I get that normal people want the app store Apple made. One where draconian requirements on developers make it hard to sneak in malware. But why can't I have a phone that fits in a normal sized human hand?

Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by nottorp »

TekMol wrote: post #2

I don't understand the situation. If you publish a popular app via an alternative app store and don't pay Apple, Apple can still block/remove your app? Then what is the point of alternative app stores? I thought it's about who controls which apps get blocked and which get onto the phone?

As it is now, you cannot publish an app on an alternative app store without Apple's permission.

The financial part doesn't even matter, they're still reserving the right to censor.

Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

karaterobot wrote: post #14

> 1_000_000$ The way most publications would write that value would be $1,000,000, or just $1MM if you're nasty. Either are acceptable because they are clear and follow widely-used conventions. As to the substance, I think the pricing changes hurts small developers who strike gold, which is bad, but I don't really care how it affects Facebook, or TikTok, or Amazon, or whomever else would hit 1MM downloads. That's a p…

> most publications would write that value would be $1,000,000, or just $1MM

Commas, dots and spaces are also used. Underscores are unusual, a bit of a vestige of maritime communications.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator

Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by wharvle »

karaterobot wrote: post #14

> 1_000_000$ The way most publications would write that value would be $1,000,000, or just $1MM if you're nasty. Either are acceptable because they are clear and follow widely-used conventions. As to the substance, I think the pricing changes hurts small developers who strike gold, which is bad, but I don't really care how it affects Facebook, or TikTok, or Amazon, or whomever else would hit 1MM downloads. That's a p…

Yeah, that styling reads like something out of an exceptionally unconvincing scammer email.

Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by AlexandrB »

foobarian wrote: post #6

I kinda still don't see the problem. If you don't like it make your own phone.

Can't wait for Microsoft to start saying this about PCs/Windows. Gonna be a "great" future. We'll look back at the "open" PC era like some kind of fabled golden age.

Edit: Actually the more relevant point is that it already is my phone. I paid Apple for it. Why can't I install anything I want on it?

Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by karaterobot »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #23
karaterobot wrote: post #14

> 1_000_000$ The way most publications would write that value would be $1,000,000, or just $1MM if you're nasty. Either are acceptable because they are clear and follow widely-used conventions. As to the substance, I think the pricing changes hurts small developers who strike gold, which is bad, but I don't really care how it affects Facebook, or TikTok, or Amazon, or whomever else would hit 1MM downloads. That's a p…

> most publications would write that value would be $1,000,000, or just $1MM Commas, dots and spaces are also used. Underscores are unusual, a bit of a vestige of maritime communications. [1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_separator

As I said, most publications would use commas, and they'd put the dollar sign in front of the value.

Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by CharlesW »

corindallax wrote: post #21
foobarian wrote: post #6

I kinda still don't see the problem. If you don't like it make your own phone.

Many things about Apple phones annoy me: * App store restrictions. * I want a phone I can use one-handed. 4 inches is the largest screen I could tolerate. * No removable battery? Why is it that no manufacturer will come along and make something better? Every year I look at other options. There are none that meet even one of my requirements. I get that normal people want the app store Apple made. One where draconian r…

Maybe the EU can force Apple to do these things too.

Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by rrix2 »

corindallax wrote: post #21
foobarian wrote: post #6

I kinda still don't see the problem. If you don't like it make your own phone.

Many things about Apple phones annoy me: * App store restrictions. * I want a phone I can use one-handed. 4 inches is the largest screen I could tolerate. * No removable battery? Why is it that no manufacturer will come along and make something better? Every year I look at other options. There are none that meet even one of my requirements. I get that normal people want the app store Apple made. One where draconian r…

There are dozens of us!

Re: The disastrous communication from Apple to apps developers

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Post by TillE »

Apple's clear intent is to make it extremely unattractive to use alternative stores (unless you've got an app with a very high ARPU). You can argue about ambiguities in the legal text, but this is absolutely contrary to the intent of the DMA, which is to foster competition.

I would be pretty surprised if the EU has no objections to this policy.

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