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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by Shaolol »

danielspace23 wrote: post #32
andsoitis wrote: post #14

It looks like the individuals were trolling him ("don't share video online that shows us in the picture...") or just trying to pick a fight. Unfortunately, these days you have to assume that someone is taking video or photos in public space and it might mean you end up online without your permission. In very rare cases such a video might go viral which then can draw attention to yourself.

Why would they be trolling him? They're asking for the basic courtesy of not having their faces shown online, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It seems like the pianist is the one who wanted to pick a fight: instead of getting the cameraperson to point away from them and explaining the situation politely, he went on a rant on how they're not in "communist" China, and it's a free country. In general, the whole appr…

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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by Shaolol »

neom wrote: post #31
jacknews wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm now slightly intrigued as to what they are actually doing. By their accents, they've clearly been in UK for a while, are gathered for some kind of patriotic celebration or whatever, and very much don't want to be filmed. It's most likely just a university compatriot get-together or something similar, but this is the fuel of conspiracy theories, sleeper cells, etc.

Some people just don't want to be filmed in public. My wife is Korean and would probably act the same way (half because in Korea it's illegal). I couldn't care less, but I can think of a few people I know who would have the same reaction (for a multitude of reasons) as this group. What if they're protesting AGAINST the CCP, using Chinese flags to get people's attention then telling them about issues going on with the…

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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by InvertedRhodium »

g-b-r wrote: post #124
ETH_start wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't described any aspect of filming you that forces you to do something, yet still maintain a right to use force against those who film in public.

You can't see how you're forced to constrain your behavior if you're going on YouTube? (assuming you were presentable to begin with)

If your behaviour would somehow be considered unacceptable when the camera isn’t rolling, then yes, I could see that constraining someone’s actions.

I don’t see that as a negative though.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by g-b-r »

InvertedRhodium wrote: post #133
g-b-r wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't see how you're forced to constrain your behavior if you're going on YouTube? (assuming you were presentable to begin with)

If your behaviour would somehow be considered unacceptable when the camera isn’t rolling, then yes, I could see that constraining someone’s actions. I don’t see that as a negative though.

Unacceptable behavior would be unacceptable camera or no camera, since you're in public (even in countries that limit recording you generally can record illegal behavior, if it's to report it to law enforcement).

But the minimal standard for simply walking among strangers and for being recorded forever for the world to see is very different, if you care about your dignity.

And that's all assuming there are surveillance cameras to limit other actions in the first place

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by ETH_start »

g-b-r wrote: post #124
ETH_start wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You haven't described any aspect of filming you that forces you to do something, yet still maintain a right to use force against those who film in public.

You can't see how you're forced to constrain your behavior if you're going on YouTube? (assuming you were presentable to begin with)

Nope, not forced

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by ShaolinTrooper »

2-718-281-828 wrote: post #61
rdtsc wrote: post #11

The "stop touching her" part was interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65iwnI2hjAA&t=791s One member of the group of waving the Chinese flag in Brendan's direction. He seems to have touched the flag or put his hand forward to touch the flag. The man with the group starting yelling very loudly "stop touching her". But it wasn't a desperate cry for help, it was very deliberate and forced in a way. He realized all…

text book public bullying trick #23 ... use any reason or no reason to viciously announce as loud as possible that you feel threatened and then some loud remarks to manifest your moral high ground. disgusting. experienced it myself at least once.

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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by ShaolinTrooper »

ghostpepper wrote: post #128
ShaolinTrooper wrote: post #98

The thing is that the Chinese people didn't want to be filmed because they knew it will be published on Youtube for revenue and that's what they didn't want. They allow people to film on a normal basis because it will not be published for profit. That's what Brendan didn't understand in the first place. The Chinese man was in the wrong for escalating the situation gathering more attention and it seemed like he was ma…

Can you explain what being filmed “for revenue” has to do with it?

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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by ShaolinTrooper »

mmh0000 wrote: post #111
ShaolinTrooper wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a difference. CCTV footages aren't used for profit and it will not be published to the public. Brendan's live video is used for profit and is published for everyone to see.

cctv footage gets published all the time for profit https://m.youtube.com/results?sp=mAEA&search_query=security+...

Then send me a link of a CCTV camera around your local mall or train station. They only publish it if it will be used for the news / evidence of a crime.

You mean to say CCTV footages in its entire duration gets profit?

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

danielspace23 wrote: post #32
andsoitis wrote: post #14

It looks like the individuals were trolling him ("don't share video online that shows us in the picture...") or just trying to pick a fight. Unfortunately, these days you have to assume that someone is taking video or photos in public space and it might mean you end up online without your permission. In very rare cases such a video might go viral which then can draw attention to yourself.

Why would they be trolling him? They're asking for the basic courtesy of not having their faces shown online, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It seems like the pianist is the one who wanted to pick a fight: instead of getting the cameraperson to point away from them and explaining the situation politely, he went on a rant on how they're not in "communist" China, and it's a free country. In general, the whole appr…

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