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Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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Ah, the 90s - a time when was the answer to every web layout question. Miss aligning your text? . Need a fancy menu? . Creating a full website? Nested s! Who needed CSS when you had rows and cells to hack your way through design? Good old days of -ing everything!

Sadly, I still find using table-based layouts easier to understand than most CSS today. I grew up with the 90's internet...

Ah cmon, take a few minutes to gen up on flexbox it’s not too hard and you’ll thank me.

https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

#382

>1x1.gif let you push elements all around the page effortlessly. To this day it is the only way to vertically center elements. align-items: center;

That's too fancy. I think you mean ...

> vertically center

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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I have a printed book of "good" website design examples from the late 90's. It is an amazing time capsule. I also really wish there was an archive of AOL's homepages... My first website is lost to the digital abyss...

What's the book called?

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

#384

I have a printed book of "good" website design examples from the late 90's. It is an amazing time capsule. I also really wish there was an archive of AOL's homepages... My first website is lost to the digital abyss...

Oh man, you just reminded me I have this book somewhere:

Web Design Annual 1999: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/4766110781

it is amazing

edit: oh crap, it's available on archive.org: https://archive.org/details/webdesignannual100webd

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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post #230

> DHTML, which stands for “distributed HTML” > Sites like Dynamic Drive meant that instead of thinking through creative solutions for problems you face, you could just copy and paste this 50 line block of code and everything would be fixed. DHTML in this context stood for Dynamic HTML, not “distributed”, hence the Dynamic of Dynamic Drive.

> DHTML, which absolutely stands for “distributed HTML” because that’s the name and this isn’t obvious bait for the no fun crowd at Hacker News That was meant as a joke, which you misquoted. Edit to add: others made the same misquote, so I wonder if the author cheekily edited it recently.

I copy/pasted. The author is up to shenanigans.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

#386

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sadly, I still find using table-based layouts easier to understand than most CSS today. I grew up with the 90's internet...

Ah cmon, take a few minutes to gen up on flexbox it’s not too hard and you’ll thank me. https://css-tricks.com/snippets/css/a-guide-to-flexbox/

It does seem decent. I don't do much front end work these days (and thanks!)

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

#387

I have a printed book of "good" website design examples from the late 90's. It is an amazing time capsule. I also really wish there was an archive of AOL's homepages... My first website is lost to the digital abyss...

What's the book called?

I'll have to look when I get home. It blows my mind because there was nothing stopping me from just... loading the websites.... I had the internet. But I was a kid/teenager and used the book for inspiration.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

#388

The year is 1996. Microsoft's homepage has a menu bar that expands when you move your mouse over it. I am determined to figure out how this works. At the time, IE has a "view source" button, but it's not very platform aware. You get a Notepad doc. The server is running Unix with files where lines break on "\n" and I'm on Windows, which needs "\r", so the source is one single long line of html. I look through the sour…

View source was my launchpad. Minimizers and compilers are great, but I so miss reading through the well manicured and maintained source of a well-designed site. I wish we could have gone with a type of compression that allowed us to keep the original source formatting for perusing production code, and ideally keep the expectation that others from around the world will be reading our code. I imagine it had a lot to d…

Same here! What a magical and empowering feeling to just see how a website works, edit it, and see the changes immediately. A year later I was paid to make my first website and 28 years later I'm still working as a full stack web developer. That one discovery in a toolbar led to a career and changed the course of my life. It's sad that that type of discoverability is largely gone.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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post #385

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> DHTML, which absolutely stands for “distributed HTML” because that’s the name and this isn’t obvious bait for the no fun crowd at Hacker News That was meant as a joke, which you misquoted. Edit to add: others made the same misquote, so I wonder if the author cheekily edited it recently.

I copy/pasted. The author is up to shenanigans.

no, they probably needed to emphasize the joke aspect to the pedantic army of superior IQ readers.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

#390

Don't forget that tables could be used for rounded corners. Or maybe I'm an early 00s web developer with that? The trick is that we created 3×3 tables, and aside of the middle cell, it would contain s, so that the creation was a website element with rounded edges, the pinnacle of human expressiveness. Since HTML emails were also the rage, and email clients updated much slower than browsers, this technique was used we…

https://www.folklore.org/Round_Rects_Are_Everywhere.html

The great an mighty Oz's crowning achievement. Ok, maybe the iPhone was bigger.

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