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Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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Any body else get online with Juno?

Yep, they had that always-on-top ad banner in a separate window that you couldn't close. At some point I figured out if you start StarCraft and go online, letting it launch Juno's client instead of launching it manually, the ad banner wouldn't show up.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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The year is 1996. Microsoft's homepage has a menu bar that expands when you move your mouse over it. I am determined to figure out how this works. At the time, IE has a "view source" button, but it's not very platform aware. You get a Notepad doc. The server is running Unix with files where lines break on "\n" and I'm on Windows, which needs "\r", so the source is one single long line of html. I look through the sour…

View source was my launchpad.

Minimizers and compilers are great, but I so miss reading through the well manicured and maintained source of a well-designed site.

I wish we could have gone with a type of compression that allowed us to keep the original source formatting for perusing production code, and ideally keep the expectation that others from around the world will be reading our code.

I imagine it had a lot to do with how quickly this thing has progressed early on. It's definitely a big part of my own origin story in this industry.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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Any body else get online with Juno?

Oh man, there's a name I haven't thought about in a long time.... I think they may have been my first foray into the actual web from BBS'. I remember it being pretty dang cool that you could write your emails offline and then dial up to do the send/receive...

Yeah and tying up my parent’s phone line, secretly, bc thug as no idea what the internet was.

Also there was no dmca so websites literally had sierra and Lucas arts games for download.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The real pros used server side includes, where you could drop specially formed comments into your HTML which then be processed by Apache and replaced with the content of another file before being sent on to the client.

Frames lead me to IIS SSI’s which lead me to PHP 3 which kicked off my entire career.

Likewise, I think its under appreciated just how many people got their start in this industry through tinkering with things because they seemed interesting.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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> DHTML, which stands for “distributed HTML” > Sites like Dynamic Drive meant that instead of thinking through creative solutions for problems you face, you could just copy and paste this 50 line block of code and everything would be fixed. DHTML in this context stood for Dynamic HTML, not “distributed”, hence the Dynamic of Dynamic Drive.

"Technology of Terror" as the description still stands though with no rebuttal.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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> To this day it is the only way to vertically center elements. Not true anymore (edit: didn't see the 2014) but the productivity cost of not being able to just "vertical-align: middle;" inside divs for the last 30 years must be billions of dollars. Also does anyone remember the fade of the overline style on :hover links? It must has been around the IE4 or IE6 era. Tables were also used to make divs and buttons with…

Nowadays I just ask ChatGPT to write the CSS for me for that, and amusingly, it seems to be able to produce at least a dozen of solutions (often came with redundant rules, too: like having 5+ rules when 2 or 3 of them are enough). It's hilariously stupid.

Bless its heart for being so dang confident about every wrong answer it has.

Re: Only 90s Web Developers Remember This (2014)

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Obviously the technology was a lot worse. But I kind of miss the internet of back then when websites would still be made and run by ordinary people. As ugly as those websites were, it felt a lot more genuine and democratic than today.

try https://wiby.me
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