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Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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The same is true for translations in most browsers, right? At least I'm not aware of any browser that does it client-side/offline. Edit: I stand corrected, Firefox does it offline! Thank you, Firefox team, this is awesome and I'll likely be using it more often now :)

Firefox does local LLM based translation. I kicked that project off in 2022 and it shipped last year.

Thank you, I find it really useful

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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post #9

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That would be useful, but also probably quite expensive, if every chrome user use this feature?

Should be doable with a local model, but there might be some trade-off here. I expect it to roll out to Pixel users first where Google has a better control.

As long as laptops are still sold with 8GB of RAM, I don't see this happening.

Honestly not sure how much RAM that'd take but to me, it sounds like bloat

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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Anyone else think the whole idea of "tab management" tools is crazy? The way to manage tabs is to close them.

And if you'd like to read it later, bookmark it! You can organize bookmarks into groups, give them custom names, and they don't require the browser to be constantly hoarding multiple gigabytes of RAM.

Neither do the tabs, autosleep/unload exists, you know

And bookmark organization is worse since it's a separate UI breaking your mental connection to the physical layout that you spend most of the time with

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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Because it seems like, regardless of the announcement, there will always be someone who has the most niche issue with it and manages to make assertions for an entire group of people while only really referencing their personal experience ("and all of the people they know").

I mean, I am the strongest local LLM advocate you will find. I have my GPU loaded with a model pretty much all day, for recreation and work. My job, my livelihood involves running local LLMs. But it's intense , even with a very finicky, efficient runtime on a strong desktop. Local LLM hosting is not something you want to impose on users unless they are acutely aware of it, or unless its a full stack hardware/software…

Fair but google does, _supposedly_ have a Gemini model meant to run on phones so it'd presumably be small enough that it wouldn't necessarily be a massive problem. Or, at least, we could get there eventually. Not arguing at this point, you're right. I just think over time we could get there

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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Do you never find yourself using brand new tools or languages? My most common use-case for chatGPT is "explain this syntax " and " ". Simple stuff that it pretty much can't get wrong. Much faster than Googling the same.

Constantly, but like I mentioned in the other 2 comments I just RTFM. Why would I need a chatbot to explain me something the devs put effort in explaining? New languages these days are pretty well documented. And you can read the entire C reference manual in an afternoon. Asking GPT to summarize something like that is beyond lazy. Side-note: stop using google as a verb, you're "searching", teach your peers that there…

No it isn't beyond lazy, it's a more efficient use of my time. If I want in depth language features explained then I read the documentation. If I want to be reminded of specific syntax as rapidly as possible then I'll keep using ChatGPT and save tons of time over the course of a week. And if you refused to even google in such scenarios beforehand then that is a really, really inefficient use of time.

Side-note to your side-note: No. Stop acting like some holier than thou elitist. You're coming off as a luddite.

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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As a tab hoarder, I remember there were some attempts to implement rule-based tab organizer (using features like tab name, url, etc...) but most of them were only marginally useful for my case. I wondered if generative models make any differences here so just tried it and a bit disappointed, it's consistently returning an error with a message "Tab groups suggestions are currently unavailable". It's just launched and…

Have you tried ToChunkA Smart TabS extension(https://chromewebstore.google.com/detail/tochunka-smart-tabs...)?

It organizes tabs and bookmarks by content similarity and does little more. Designed for tab hoarders in mind. :)

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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Seriously, their first example seems useless to most people. Naming a tab group??? That doesn't take any time, little thought, and who does that regularly? Summarizing an article seems like something everyone else can do OK. It's a huge avenue for bias (maybe that's why it's reasonably elided) but at least it's actually useful.

This is the only feature I'm excited about. I perpetually have 100+ tabs opened and have tried tab groups but eventually things get disorganized again. The ability to automatically group similar tabs, assuming it works, is going to be game changing.

To automatically group similar tabs I am using ToChunkA Smart TabS extension.

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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post #70

The last thing I want is further telemetry from Chrome to Google. I'm so glad I switched to Firefox. This should be an API, not a browser integration.

an API to group your browser tabs..?

There is an extension for Firefox that does it.

https://addons.mozilla.org/uk/firefox/addon/tochunka-smart-t...

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