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Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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The Internet 3 years ago? Was that Internet that great?

No but it was (mostly) filled with real people. Sure there was a GPT3-generated article or two but they were pretty easy to spot.

But it was also largely filled with Business Insider-esque articles, which are as bad as LLM generated articles IMO.

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I'm curious, why do you think that?

Running "smart" LLMs locally takes a lot of RAM, a lot of compute, and a lot of disk space. It produces a considerable amount of heat unless it's run on an NPU, which basically doesn't happen on desktops at the moment. Hot loading/unloading it can be slow even on an SSD. Users often multitask with chrome in the background, and I think many would be very displeased to find Chrome bogging down their computer for reason…

Honestly that sounds extremely feasible, especially for a feature that isn't on by default. The one the parent comment references in Arc isn't on by default. Also chrome eating up system resources is already a meme and they've been working on using less by sleeping tabs.

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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I hope the Chrome devs will add some features like those in Arc browser, such as summarizing content while hovering over a link and pressing Shift.

I hope the Arc Browser team makes their Chromium based project as cross-platform as Chromium itself.

It's coming to Windows really soon! I'm not really holding my breath for Linux support though :/

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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Anyone else think the whole idea of "tab management" tools is crazy? The way to manage tabs is to close them.

Or filtering and searching. Anything you can have a large number of should have an obvious filtering & searching UI. After how many decades of UI are we still so behind on basic usability design.

This is a feature in Chrome today.

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One example for which I use ChatGPT is tip of the tongue. I can't remember a word, but I can describe it in other ways. Google doesn't catch on those keywords, ChatGPT does. It's also pretty good for generating pointers for a complex solution. Like I try to figure out something in the non-JPA old version of EclipseLink, so I ask ChatGPT. The generated code is very often wrong, but it often points me into a right dire…

I just use a thesaurus and hit one or more synonyms for the first example. The second isn't really a problem I encounter, some docs are terrible yes but I jump to definition or search the web. I might've had more use when I was new to programming but my workflow these days is pretty solid and I don't see myself saving time by typing prompts and debugging output rather than just coding. If it is too complex for me to…

Do you never find yourself using brand new tools or languages? My most common use-case for chatGPT is "explain this syntax " and "". Simple stuff that it pretty much can't get wrong. Much faster than Googling the same.

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Tab groups are a mental shortcut so you can spend less time figuring out the nature of the tab you're looking at or finding particular tabs. If something automates their creation then there is absolutely an advantage to sites that can subvert the classification method, because users will start with the "banking site" expectation instead of no expectation at all.

Who has that many bank website tabs open? And that are still active, because of course bank websites log you out if you do nothing within a minute or two. And then create a tab group from those tabs, and then the bad actor correctly guesses which bank you use and has bypassed Safe Browsing (which also uses ML now) and you visit the tab and manually (because the password manager won't work) type in your credentials? W…

Replace banking with any other popular site. It was just an example.

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I suck at plenty of things and when there is software (or another tool) to help me, I am happy to use it. Software that helps with communication, at least on this level, is a new frontier and therefore, as always, people feel a lot of uncertainty. As someone who seriously utilizes this particular tool, what do you think of those issues? For example, do you feel like the result has your own voice? Your own specific, p…

The uncertainty you pointed out does seem to explain the downvotes I received. For me personally, communication is arduous. I struggle daily to articulate what I want to say in a logical and efficient manner, let alone in a graceful or artistic one. I've noticed my vocabulary and communication skill has regressed as I get older, despite efforts to improve it. Overall, ChatGPT has helped tremendously. I never had a wr…

> The uncertainty you pointed out does seem to explain the downvotes I received.

Yes, even on HN people despise anything that violates norms (unless it's promoted by a megalomaniac).

Thanks for sharing your experiences. It's great there's now a tool for that need.

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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I just use a thesaurus and hit one or more synonyms for the first example. The second isn't really a problem I encounter, some docs are terrible yes but I jump to definition or search the web. I might've had more use when I was new to programming but my workflow these days is pretty solid and I don't see myself saving time by typing prompts and debugging output rather than just coding. If it is too complex for me to…

Do you never find yourself using brand new tools or languages? My most common use-case for chatGPT is "explain this syntax " and " ". Simple stuff that it pretty much can't get wrong. Much faster than Googling the same.

Constantly, but like I mentioned in the other 2 comments I just RTFM. Why would I need a chatbot to explain me something the devs put effort in explaining? New languages these days are pretty well documented. And you can read the entire C reference manual in an afternoon.

Asking GPT to summarize something like that is beyond lazy.

Side-note: stop using google as a verb, you're "searching", teach your peers that there are alternatives that are both better and won't ask you for your first born.

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