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Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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post #76

Soon you won't need to browse the web at all, Chrome will do everything for you: watch youtube ads, click on sponsored links, write positive reviews for restaurants buying ads from adsense, and write negative reviews for ones not advertising with google, fight with edge which browser is the default one. On the bright side, you will be able to enjoy more time offline.

Your comment reminded me of Douglas Adams' Electric Monk:

"The Electric Monk was a labour-saving device, like a dishwasher or a video recorder. Dishwashers washed tedious dishes for you, thus saving you the bother of washing them yourself, video recorders watched tedious television for you, thus saving you the bother of looking at it yourself; Electric Monks believed things for you, thus saving you what was becoming an increasingly onerous task, that of believing all the things the world expected you to believe."

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

#103
post #32

Here are some better ideas from the top of my head: - summarise an article - find information on a given topic (free-form input text) - full voice control ("click that link", "read that article", "find this") - auto-submit a captcha

> "auto-submit a captcha" we have come full circle

Well, we have been training them to do this for a while...

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

#104
post #76

Soon you won't need to browse the web at all, Chrome will do everything for you: watch youtube ads, click on sponsored links, write positive reviews for restaurants buying ads from adsense, and write negative reviews for ones not advertising with google, fight with edge which browser is the default one. On the bright side, you will be able to enjoy more time offline.

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Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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I get what it does, I've seen demos and it is no doubt impressive, but I have no personal use and don't see the point of giving them any data. I'm not limited in my current workflow and prefer official docs over the LLM interpretation of those same docs. The real satire are all the comments on any problem asking "have you tried GPT", more annoying than the Rust community. What do you use it for that you think would b…

One example for which I use ChatGPT is tip of the tongue. I can't remember a word, but I can describe it in other ways. Google doesn't catch on those keywords, ChatGPT does. It's also pretty good for generating pointers for a complex solution. Like I try to figure out something in the non-JPA old version of EclipseLink, so I ask ChatGPT. The generated code is very often wrong, but it often points me into a right dire…

I just use a thesaurus and hit one or more synonyms for the first example. The second isn't really a problem I encounter, some docs are terrible yes but I jump to definition or search the web.

I might've had more use when I was new to programming but my workflow these days is pretty solid and I don't see myself saving time by typing prompts and debugging output rather than just coding.

If it is too complex for me to understand I wouldn't really trust the output anyway and might spend a lot more time sanity checking the generated code and it might not be very useful in the end. I'll try someday if I really get stuck, I expect to get disappointed though.

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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Edge is honestly slowly turning into a better Chrome, and the better parts aren't even the LLM craze. If they keep it up, this might actually threaten Googles browser dominance. On the AI end though Microsoft aggresively pursues support for other AI providers (Mistral and Lamma both being on Azure API's now), Google tying themselves to Gemini seems to be tying themselves to the best they can do while Microsoft seems…

Serious question: What do you like about Edge? I’ve tried it a couple of times (when Bing AI chat was still Edge-only) and was extremely put off by all the coupons, rewards, and other distractions.

Vertical tabs with grouping.

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

#107
post #76

Soon you won't need to browse the web at all, Chrome will do everything for you: watch youtube ads, click on sponsored links, write positive reviews for restaurants buying ads from adsense, and write negative reviews for ones not advertising with google, fight with edge which browser is the default one. On the bright side, you will be able to enjoy more time offline.

I look forward to AI blocking ads after it gets tired of clicking through all of them.

> AI blocking ads after it gets tired of clicking through all of them

The future is (almost) now: SponsorBlock[1] skips embedded ads in YouTube videos, based on crowdfunded timestamps.

[1]: https://github.com/ajayyy/SponsorBlock

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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You haven't tried what would only be called science fiction 4 years ago but are tired of it? The hype machine is grating, but do try a Gen AI model. I use it for code, for ideation, for various NLP tasks. It's at the very least moderately useful in various tasks, and extremely useful in some. edit: tone

I get what it does, I've seen demos and it is no doubt impressive, but I have no personal use and don't see the point of giving them any data. I'm not limited in my current workflow and prefer official docs over the LLM interpretation of those same docs. The real satire are all the comments on any problem asking "have you tried GPT", more annoying than the Rust community. What do you use it for that you think would b…

GPT-4 is miles ahead of anything else (including DeepL) when it comes to translations, for one thing.

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

#109
post #4

The first two are seemingly of questionable utility, but the 3rd feature (Help me write) is actually quite interesting. As of late, most of my public written responses (bar HN) have had some sort of collaboration with ChatGPT, and I've often wondered about a native browser integration. For those of us who struggle with communication, this is an exciting prospect!

I suck at plenty of things and when there is software (or another tool) to help me, I am happy to use it. Software that helps with communication, at least on this level, is a new frontier and therefore, as always, people feel a lot of uncertainty. As someone who seriously utilizes this particular tool, what do you think of those issues? For example, do you feel like the result has your own voice? Your own specific, p…

The uncertainty you pointed out does seem to explain the downvotes I received.

For me personally, communication is arduous. I struggle daily to articulate what I want to say in a logical and efficient manner, let alone in a graceful or artistic one. I've noticed my vocabulary and communication skill has regressed as I get older, despite efforts to improve it.

Overall, ChatGPT has helped tremendously. I never had a written communication style that I was proud of, so I'm happy to assume its more generic tone of voice. If language fulfills its primary purpose, to get a point across, that's enough for me. Any kind of inherent artistic integrity is above my pay grade, so to speak.

Re: Chrome experimental AI features

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How would that affect the end user except they go into the banking tab group and go "Huh. This isn't a banking website" and close it?

Tab groups are a mental shortcut so you can spend less time figuring out the nature of the tab you're looking at or finding particular tabs. If something automates their creation then there is absolutely an advantage to sites that can subvert the classification method, because users will start with the "banking site" expectation instead of no expectation at all.

Who has that many bank website tabs open? And that are still active, because of course bank websites log you out if you do nothing within a minute or two. And then create a tab group from those tabs, and then the bad actor correctly guesses which bank you use and has bypassed Safe Browsing (which also uses ML now) and you visit the tab and manually (because the password manager won't work) type in your credentials?

Worrying about this as a potential threat is on the same level as my bank "disabling" right click.

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