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Do the AMD based Framework laptops support proper suspend to ram?
No. It supports s0 sleep, not s3. It's my biggest problem with mine. I lose about 1% per hour.
Anyone know why it doesn't support s3 sleep?
Framework Laptop 16 Review
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Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review
#302I'm happy to answer any questions folks have on this product.
When will it be available in Sweden? I followed the prompt on the website and signed up for the newsletter, but I got so much marketing spam that was totally irrelevant to my one and only question that I had to unsubscribe.
My guess: The real problem is warranty returns by mail.
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Any plans of doing OLED displays? It's the only reason why I got my XPS13; but if given the choice, I'd have jumped immediately to the F13 OLED.
Is OLED really that interesting? I've watched OLED tv's and in rooms with any sunlight the dark parts become unusable. I've also seen reviews for OLED computer monitors, where people are annoyed that the screen will auto-dim at inopportune times.
Is OLED really that interesting
I'd say "good" rather than "interesting" and yes, it is, particularly for anyone who likes dark mode.
Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review
#304My 11th gen Intel Framework is my only PC and has been a great machine. I use it for dev, gaming, and general computing. Integrated Intel graphics goes surprisingly far if you run games at 720p - Skyrim, Dishonered, the Mass Effects, and more recently Battlebit all run well. I'd imagine the more recent Ryzens would be much better. I want the 16 for more screen real-estate and better gaming; I've had family notice my…
For what it’s worth, that makes at least 3 of us in Alaska with one :)
Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review
#305My AMD Framework 13 occasionally hangs and requires hard reset to come back to life. No errors are generated. As far as I can tell it instantly and unpredictably stops executing any instructions at all. There hasn't been a driver or firmware update in three months. The keyboard and trackpad are mediocre. The fan vents are on the bottom of the computer where they're almost permanently blocked. It's not a terrible comp…
On the bottom is the air in-take. The air is blown at the edge of the bottom between the hinges.
I have the fw13 12th gen and I don't think the keyboard and trackpad are mediocre at all.
I am running the Fedora Cinnamon spin. The issue for me is that only sometimes it takes a minutes to get out of sleep after I close the lid. Apart from that it works fine, and I would recommend it.
Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review
#306I'm happy to answer any questions folks have on this product.
Why do they continue to put a Windows icon on the super key? That alone would prevent me from buying it ;p
Of all things this the most superficial thing I'd care about.
I want sturdiness, correct performance, good repairability, great linux support. Tout le reste n'est que littérature.
EDIT: Oh I missed the smiley at the end. So I think you were not too serious about this being a dealbreaker
Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review
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I think the expectation for battery life for most these days is closer to what can be found on e.g. M-series MacBooks or in the x86 world, HP Dragonfly and some ASUS Zenbooks, which range between 14 and 22 hours.
Battery life is inherently a trade off against performance and weight. It's also a trade off against competence, because you can kill the battery right quick if drivers don't idle things properly, but even after you address that you still have the other thing. Which makes 16+ hour battery life an odd choice for most people. Who uses their laptop for 16 contiguous hours with no opportunity to charge? It could have bee…
Me. Road trips. Bad weather. Airports without charging options. 16h would be a bad day but it isnt outside the possible. Also, power outages and when i just forget to charge overnight.
Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review
#308My 11th gen Intel Framework is my only PC and has been a great machine. I use it for dev, gaming, and general computing. Integrated Intel graphics goes surprisingly far if you run games at 720p - Skyrim, Dishonered, the Mass Effects, and more recently Battlebit all run well. I'd imagine the more recent Ryzens would be much better. I want the 16 for more screen real-estate and better gaming; I've had family notice my…
For what it’s worth, that makes at least 3 of us in Alaska with one :)
unless you were the one he saw, and there are only 2 :)
Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review
#309Earlier quoted context omitted.
Battery life is inherently a trade off against performance and weight. It's also a trade off against competence, because you can kill the battery right quick if drivers don't idle things properly, but even after you address that you still have the other thing. Which makes 16+ hour battery life an odd choice for most people. Who uses their laptop for 16 contiguous hours with no opportunity to charge? It could have bee…
Long battery life isn’t so much about contiguous use as it is about not needing to think about charging as often and being able to not carry a laptop charger brick on excursions. It also lets you still have “normal” laptop life left over after periods of high-intensity usage. Also generally speaking more efficient laptops are cooler which is generally a quality welcome in a device sometimes used in a person’s lap.
> being able to not carry a laptop charger brick on excursions. It also lets you still have “normal” laptop life left over after periods of high-intensity usage.
This is just the same trade off. For a given level of efficiency you could have put in a smaller battery and offset the weight of a second battery / charging brick that you would then only need when you need many hours of battery life.
> Also generally speaking more efficient laptops are cooler which is generally a quality welcome in a device sometimes used in a person’s lap.
That isn't really part of the trade off either. The faster ones generally don't have worse performance per watt -- they're often better because they have more cores with lower clock speeds. You get 100% more cores with 75% more performance for 50% more power consumption. For the same load they generate less heat. See also "race to idle".
They only generate more heat in absolute terms if you put more load on them than the slower alternative would have been able to handle.
Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review
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Battery is what prevents me from taking my 13 framework with me when traveling. I spend most of my time in pycharm, rebuild docker containers constantly, and have celery + postgres + redis running full tilt. The fan is running constantly, it's always burning hot, and the battery lasts under 2 hours (if I'm really lucky). Previous generation Macbook running the same workload last for 6+ hours. That said, for someone w…
Mildly curious what kind of task requires that usage profile on a laptop (in general but especially while traveling?)
When I occasionally go into the office it's a ~4 hour round trip by train, and I work during that time. It's simply running a dev environment.