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Framework Laptop 16 Review

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Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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I'm happy to answer any questions folks have on this product.

When will it be available in Sweden?

I followed the prompt on the website and signed up for the newsletter, but I got so much marketing spam that was totally irrelevant to my one and only question that I had to unsubscribe.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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Are there plans for USB4/thunderbolt on amd ryzen laptops?

USB4 support is present on the rear left and right Expansion Card slots on our Ryzen-powered Framework Laptop 13 and Framework Laptop 16.

Ah perfect, the descriptipn of the usb-c expansion module confused me a little bit.

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I'm happy to answer any questions folks have on this product.

Been patiently waiting here in Sweden to be able to order one.

You got an AMD option now, this is the last hurdle.

(An ergonomic and programmable keyboard ia a dream. Maybe I could mod it myself.)

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It is unlikely, but I really hope they get an ortholinear keyboard option at some point. There is this thread[1] which has gotten my hopes up. [1] https://community.frame.work/t/ortholinear-keyboard-option/3...

Hopefully not just a simple square grid, but something designed for ergonomics. You don't need to invent a new layout, there's plenty of pretty good designs you can copy, like Corne or Atreus. But at this point I'd take anything - even a narrower space bar (so that you can use your thumbs for modifiers without contorting them) would be a huge improvement. Even just looking at staggered keyboards hurts my hands.

There's a surprisingly large cohort that believes a matrix layout is ergonomic—as in, "I have an ergonomic keyboard". From my personal use, it's a wash at best—some keys are easier to reach, and others are harder. The worst part is the layout promotes ulnar deviation even more than does a standard keyboard, and ulnar deviation is a major contributor to RSI. (A split matrix-style keyboard would negate the ulnar deviation concerns.)

The Atreus layout, while not a personal favorite (way too much chording, which I found unpleasant and uncomfortable), would seem to be pretty ideal on a laptop, though it does take up a good chunk of space.

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Hi there, Do you think that you will move from batches to continuous production the next few years (I understand this is difficult logistics)? If Frameworks were available with 3 day shipping, then I would be able to recommend them to people more successfully. Also out of interest, do you mind sharing your stance (and estimates for current and future demand) for touchscreens? Presumably you're estimating low demand f…

We're in stock on both Intel and AMD Framework Laptop 13 configurations, and they ship from inventory within a week. We start out each new product under a pre-order system, but then move into normal production and ordering once we fulfill all pre-orders.

OK great, thanks

And appreciate that any expectations for <1week delivery would ignore your JIT/ondemand style assembly

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Hi - Linux still has spotty fractional scaling support. It would be nice to have a display option that is either usable without fractional scaling (1920x1200) or one that works with 2x scaling (3840x2400).

Linux support will definitely get better within the next year, but yeah this is my biggest pain point. Electron and other XWayland apps look terrible. Is there some environment variable that I can set to launch Electron apps with the correct command line arguments for Wayland? Edit: Looks like I found what I am looking for: https://www.electronjs.org/docs/latest/api/environment-varia... . Electron apps are still blur…

Use a better DE. KDE allows not scaling xwayland apps, and Hyprland does too. Just set Xft.dpi to let it scale the old fashioned way. Electron can be started with wayland but it's often buggy.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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I'll chime in and say that I love my FW13. It's a great machine. I got the DIY kit and had my 7yo put it together. It was straightforward with a little help from dad (even installing Ubuntu!). Now we fight over who gets to use it.

It's awesome to hear that. A big part of creating Framework was the urge to prevent a world where kids could no longer tinker with their parents' computers.

Re: Framework Laptop 16 Review

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I'm happy to answer any questions folks have on this product.

I have a Framework 16 pre-ordered for batch 11 -- is there a rough estimate of when it might ship? Promising I won't send you a nastygram either if that estimate doesn't hold :) I didn't keep track of Framework 13s at all so I'm not sure what their shipping cadence was for pre-orders (just for comparison's sake)

For Batch 11 (and all of the later current batches), we expect to fulfill them before the end of Q2.
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