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how long will it run on battery? my FW13 12th gen (debian) lasts maybe 2 hours and even in suspend mode it drains way to fast (/sys/power/mem_sleep = deep)
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I run all the heavy stuff on a remote dev node. My laptop is just vscode+ssh, tmux in iTerm, a browser, Spotify and slack.
The wave of the future! Half the people in my team did that, I didn't feel right about the EC2 costs. To each their own, I guess.
how long will it run on battery? my FW13 12th gen (debian) lasts maybe 2 hours and even in suspend mode it drains way to fast (/sys/power/mem_sleep = deep)
You are not alone with both issues. Framework12, i5, NixOS. My milleage is 2.5~3h, but usage is light (vim mainly, often not even a browser). I spent quite some time trying different things to optimize it, but never got more than realistic 3 hours. Happy with other aspects though.
I tried upgrading to the ryzen and when it was good it was really good. I was able to keep a user mode libvirt vm running for dev work and mid brightness under 5W power draw. That used slirp networking, adding a bridge or default nat nic takes up about 2w to 3w of it's own power.
But like most windows laptops the suspend mucked things up. Not even power draw while asleep, but when awaking from sleep the power minimum was 10w with it more often at 20w with similar usage. I tried several wifi cards, nvme drives, port configurations etc. Also tried Fedora, Ubuntu and Nixos.
On Linux this carries over to the discussion of tlp vs power profile daemon, and soon tund. I saw much better performance and regularity with tlp, but that seems like it's not the path forward.
The steam deck shows that suspend can be fixed and done well with decent battery life under linux.
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Does a current-gen laptop featuring an X201-like keyboard exist? Has such a thing even existed in the last five years?
Lenovo continues to reduce key travel in favor of the more popular thin and light crowd.
https://demo.intellique.org/nextcloud/index.php/s/6jJ3r4brrj...
Gonna be interesting to see if the community effort to get an oculink port goes anywhere, would make using it with an eGPU much more viable. Regardless, it sounds pretty great from this review and the upgradable backslot is a massive achievement.
What’s the advantage of Oculink over regular Thunderbolt/USB4 for eGPU ?
OTOH, it's only PCIE signal.
how long will it run on battery? my FW13 12th gen (debian) lasts maybe 2 hours and even in suspend mode it drains way to fast (/sys/power/mem_sleep = deep)
I would really like to switch from my M1 MacBook to a Framework Laptop, but the battery life difference being almost an order of magnitude makes it a complete non-starter. I like Framework, but this needs to be at the absolute top of their priority list to the exclusion of almost everything else.
I'm happy to answer any questions folks have on this product.
Are you planning to add blank keycaps or colemak/dvorak keycaps?
how long will it run on battery? my FW13 12th gen (debian) lasts maybe 2 hours and even in suspend mode it drains way to fast (/sys/power/mem_sleep = deep)
You are not alone with both issues. Framework12, i5, NixOS. My milleage is 2.5~3h, but usage is light (vim mainly, often not even a browser). I spent quite some time trying different things to optimize it, but never got more than realistic 3 hours. Happy with other aspects though.
I definitely had to play with powertop a bit and remove some programs that consumed a lot of battery (for example, the blueman tray applet had to go). I'd recommend setting powerManagement.enable = true and powerManagement.powertop.enable = true, and letting powertop run in the background while on battery for a few hours to identify the worst offenders.
This is my configuration: https://kirarin.hootr.club/git/steinuil/flakes/src/branch/ma...
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I'm surprised to be reading that, honestly. I have a first batch framework 13 without any upgrades and I spent the summer working with it outside. Nothing super crazy, 4-6 hour stretches in the park, but I never remember cutting it close with the battery. As long as we're sharing anecdotes, I'm happy with the battery life FWIW... Edit: I'm running linux. I don't recall doing any battery optimization but maybe I insta…
I love framework's mission. I would not change the past on buying a framework. To provide a counter example, quite often I open my bag to find that my Framework 13 has cooked itself in the bag. The battery life, and the bad intel sleep management have been a thorn in my side since I got it. But the power management does leave much to be desired. Given LTT's review of the laptop, it may be best to wait for the 2nd rev…
how long will it run on battery? my FW13 12th gen (debian) lasts maybe 2 hours and even in suspend mode it drains way to fast (/sys/power/mem_sleep = deep)