how long will it run on battery? my FW13 12th gen (debian) lasts maybe 2 hours and even in suspend mode it drains way to fast (/sys/power/mem_sleep = deep)
Two hours??
I get 6 with Ubuntu on my 1240P Framework, and that's with the BIOS limiting the battery to 80%.
I'm happy to answer any questions folks have on this product.
Any chance we can get Japanese keyboard? You asked for feedback on it a while ago: https://community.frame.work/t/request-review-of-korean-belg... (am not even Japanese, just have bad habit of using thumb clusters a lot, and this is the only layout with small space bar)
The keyboards we requested artwork feedback on are all ones that we're working with our keyboard supplier on, but we don't have specific availability timelines that we can share. We certainly make sure to have the main keyboards for a country available before we launch there, but we've also in many instances launched a keyboard language far ahead of time.
I wish they deliver good keyboard as well, like Thinkpads X201 or similar have. I am happy owner of modded X201 with updated screen, motherboard, and so on. It's not on a cheap side, but I'm happy to pay that price _only_ for the keyboard option. It's so cool. Folks back then knew what was important.
> ...modded X201 with updated ... motherboard... How far are you getting with these updates? I agree the keyboards of old are legendary, but at some point your productivity is negatively affected by legacy CPUs and related.
It really depends on how you develop.
For some people laptops never have enough power and are essentially a thin client to something else.
how long will it run on battery? my FW13 12th gen (debian) lasts maybe 2 hours and even in suspend mode it drains way to fast (/sys/power/mem_sleep = deep)
OOf thats a tough sell, two hours is pretty pathetic. I can't imagine how any laptop maker can be selling a laptop in 2024 with anything shorter than 8 hours and keep a straight face. This surely has to be a software issue, I can't imagine they'd have been silly enough to fit such a tiny battery!
Yup, comparing to a similarly priced MacBook that goes for ~20 hours it's ridiculously bad.
I wish they deliver good keyboard as well, like Thinkpads X201 or similar have. I am happy owner of modded X201 with updated screen, motherboard, and so on. It's not on a cheap side, but I'm happy to pay that price _only_ for the keyboard option. It's so cool. Folks back then knew what was important.
Does a current-gen laptop featuring an X201-like keyboard exist? Has such a thing even existed in the last five years?
I would really like to switch from my M1 MacBook to a Framework Laptop, but the battery life difference being almost an order of magnitude makes it a complete non-starter. I like Framework, but this needs to be at the absolute top of their priority list to the exclusion of almost everything else.
Framework's hands are tied; the battery life with Apple's CPUs simply can't be touched by the biggest players like Intel and AMD.
Touched maybe not, but it's almost 20 hours worse. Surely it doesn't have to be THAT bad?
I wish they deliver good keyboard as well, like Thinkpads X201 or similar have. I am happy owner of modded X201 with updated screen, motherboard, and so on. It's not on a cheap side, but I'm happy to pay that price _only_ for the keyboard option. It's so cool. Folks back then knew what was important.
I personally never experienced a keyboard as comfortable as my fw13. I am coming from XPS ones and never tried ThinkPads, thought.
The LTT video says that the 16-inch Framework has a much worse keyboard than the 13-inch one.
how long will it run on battery? my FW13 12th gen (debian) lasts maybe 2 hours and even in suspend mode it drains way to fast (/sys/power/mem_sleep = deep)
I get 3-3.5 under Fedora and the 'Power Saver' gnome power profile, but yeah it's not great.
I wish they deliver good keyboard as well, like Thinkpads X201 or similar have. I am happy owner of modded X201 with updated screen, motherboard, and so on. It's not on a cheap side, but I'm happy to pay that price _only_ for the keyboard option. It's so cool. Folks back then knew what was important.
Does a current-gen laptop featuring an X201-like keyboard exist? Has such a thing even existed in the last five years?
Lenovo continues to reduce key travel in favor of the more popular thin and light crowd.