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When America first dropped acid

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Re: When America first dropped acid

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I've never dropped acid. Net-net, what's best in your (whosoever is reading this) opinion? 1. To never drop acid. 2. To try it out a couple times and never do it again? 3. To add it as part of one's regimen as and when one needs it?

2 or 3, depending on definition of regimen, but also "best" depends on what you're shooting for/concerned about. From what evidence I've reviewed it seems pretty low-risk from a health perspective, as long as you're taking prudent doses with prudent infrequency, and the effects are generally positive although somewhat inconsistently so. If you're curious about taking it, I would recommend doing so and picking between 2 and 3 afterwards. If you have a lot of anxiety around drug use, or are generally averse to intoxication, it might be better to stick to 1 as I think you will find the experience overwhelming. Regardless I would recommend not hyping up the experience too much in your mind, as IMO the actual 'tripping' experience on a standard 1 tab dose is quite different (and in some ways more mild) than the typical media representation, and I think too much fantasizing about what it's like can lead to more anxiety than is really necessary. Finally, I would recommend not taking more than 100ug in almost any circumstances, as IMO beyond that point the downsides start to accumulate far faster than the upsides.

Some background/trip-reporting-ish: For the last 6 months or so I've been dosing around 25-50 micrograms at a frequency of ~1 per 2 weeks as my "going out" drug, rather than consuming alcohol. Results have been mixed, definitely enjoyed some nights very much but others the effects were similar to pot paranoia. Lately I've decided that this is probably an imprudent frequency and am dropping down to maybe once per quarter, but will likely consume closer to 100ug per a session. The things I like about it are:

* the rush of energy that persists for the first few hours

* the duration of the trip (4-6 hours of effects, which from a bang/buck perspective is a plus in my book)

* the general silly vibe it creates in me.

Things I don't like about it are:

* the high body load (it creates a lot of muscle tension in my body, and I often feel physically worn out the next day like I was working out)

* the occasional paranoia/in-my-headness

* the higher level of emotional vulnerability I feel while at peak trip (good for some social situations, but in the wrong environment kind of sucks).

tl;dr: on the best trips I turn into a silly fae with a lot of curiosity and humor, on the worst trips I turn into an analytical gargoyle perched at the fringes of the function. In all cases I'm kind of run down the next day.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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Why would a criminal syndicate in the 50s monopolize a drug that was not illegal at that time?

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Of course it matters. There isn't much money in selling something where your criminal network doesn't give you any advantage over other distributors.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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In the same way, Woodstock '99 broke all that was left of the mainstream hippie movement, giving rise to the new metal one

Metal hippies? Is that a thing? I'm more familiar with the 2010s hippy festival goers eating mushrooms and research chemicals while listening to a combination of jam bands and various electronic genres

Sorry, Nu metal. It was more in the sense of the hippie movement falling out of mainstream for good around the 00's, at least on my view of the world, of course

Re: When America first dropped acid

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I'm curious to see how many people have access to mushrooms these days. For my 20s and 30s it seemed impossible to get, now all of a sudden I can get them no problem. I have a friend who is not into drugs at all but grows them, weighs them, and has a pill making machine to make pills so he can accurately micro-dose to address severe depression. I have other friends who love drugs and can get the literally anytime the…

Yes, they've gotten easier. There are mushroom based gummies available in local smokeshops due to some loophole in the that this particular strain of shrooms is not explicitly illegal. My gf just got into shrooms. She started getting them from her weed dealer. His shrooms were overpriced, and hit or miss quality. Then we ran into a girl with a shroom hat at a festival, and it turns out she's a great source. Selling s…

If you're in IL, I believe I know this person.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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Excellent find. I heard perhaps urban folklore from an old-timer former journalist that the LSD trade was monopolized by a single criminal syndicate in the 50's. There are still some haunts with local regulars not overrun with suits, squares, or tourists.

Why would a criminal syndicate in the 50s monopolize a drug that was not illegal at that time?

Not only was it not illegal, but at that time the patent holder (Sandoz labs) was giving it away for free to basically any researchers who wrote in asking for a sample, in order to try and find a way they could monetize it.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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At the end of the day, you can either see a beautiful thing and share it with a bunch of people. Or you can see an ugly mechanistic thing and think that you're smarter than the people seeing the beautiful thing I don't think whichever one you see is a choice either, more like the yanny vs laurel thing At one point I made the same argument you make. Now I don't see it that way. And I feel much better honestly

For what it's worth, I don't think it's ugly. I think you're right that it's a personality thing, maybe connected to how strong the "rationalization drive" is? I don't know. I guess I'd rather tickle the rationalizing side of my brain with a rationalizination of the tendency to stop rationalizing rather than just stop rationalizing :)

At least we know rationalization is not possible without free will!

Re: When America first dropped acid

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I've never dropped acid. Net-net, what's best in your (whosoever is reading this) opinion? 1. To never drop acid. 2. To try it out a couple times and never do it again? 3. To add it as part of one's regimen as and when one needs it?

Acid is one of those things that you do a few times then don't have much of a desire to do again.

I've done acid about 15 times. Was fun, I guess.

Acid makes you think outside the box and really zoom out on life. It feels like you're able to think 100x more in the time you're tripping than sober. I would definitely try it. It can open your mind a bit.

But I think magic mushrooms are overall better as an emotional aid.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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Recently read a description of 1960's ideology. The claim being that its all propaganda, and what we know as 60s ideology (peace love etc) actually never really happened for a real duration of time. What did happen was that those that prescribed to that line of thinking either moved to communes, or they dropped so much acid they were societally irrelevant. There werent many people actually out and about that were pus…

To be honest, if you've used psychedelics, you'll know many people have that experience. I definitely have that over-encompassing all-is-one feeling. To be honest, it feels like a lower level of consciousness, less sophisticated, that is just making connections between random things.

Re: When America first dropped acid

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I disagree, but ignoring this somewhat, I offer this: One remarkable thing is how the hippie stuff often induced by chemical manipulation of serotonin receptors mirrors a lot of religious messages. You can take slogans like "peace on earth, love your neighbor, love is all you need" and say, is that hippie stuff? Or is it, say... The message attributed to Jesus? In that sense, you don't really need the drugs or counte…

There is a not insignificant amount of evidence pointing to psychedelics as playing an outsized role in the formation of religions. A shaman brewing a mystical drink that gives you visions of supernatural forces is pretty convincing evidence of a god(s) to your any 2000 B.C. person. How else could you explain such a trip while having no concept of chemicals much less neurochemistry.

Fever will also cause hallucinations.

And in the three main monotheist religions formation stories there is a good amount of time spent/lost in the desert.

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