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Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by NegativeLatency »

chewmieser wrote: post #6

See also Samsung issues: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/10/2... My Samsung lasted like 3 years before it started freezing up the ice maker and eventually it started failing during cooling. We dealt with throwing away food, defrosting it, replacing the evaporator fan, keeping a constant eye on it before we finally ditched it for a Bosch (haven’t had it long enough to say if that was a good mov…

Got a Bosch fridge and it’s been good except for the door seal starting to rip

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by legitster »

timcobb wrote: post #5

I recently bought a house with what I can only describe as some "zany" appliances. For example: - An impeller-based washer that doesn't cover clothes in water, even with the "deep water" setting, and soil level all the way up. It frequently doesn't submerge half the stuff during the pre-soak. It's a $1,000 washer and I routinely pour water into it from the sink. - A fridge with a giant ice maker in the refrigerator,…

> A fridge with a giant ice maker in the refrigerator, not in the freezer.

We have one of these on our ancient fridge. In a way, it actually makes sense - a lot of the stresses of an ice maker are having all of the mechanics being forced to operate in freezing temperatures.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

Verdex wrote: post #33
chewmieser wrote: post #6

See also Samsung issues: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/10/2... My Samsung lasted like 3 years before it started freezing up the ice maker and eventually it started failing during cooling. We dealt with throwing away food, defrosting it, replacing the evaporator fan, keeping a constant eye on it before we finally ditched it for a Bosch (haven’t had it long enough to say if that was a good mov…

My samsung refrigerator slowly fills with water under the vegetable tray. It keeps a schedule that is pretty mysterious, so I just check it periodically to make sure it doesn't flood out onto the floor. In the winter it becomes ice for some reason, which actually is a lot more easy to clean out.

This is likely the water filter. The system is notoriously fragile. If you don't follow the "proper procedure" then you inevitably end up with a leak. I have no idea why.

Try running through the process and double the duration of every step, and don't skip any steps, and it should stop leaking.

Alternatively throw the damn thing in the garbage.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by athenot »

Verdex wrote: post #33
chewmieser wrote: post #6

See also Samsung issues: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/10/2... My Samsung lasted like 3 years before it started freezing up the ice maker and eventually it started failing during cooling. We dealt with throwing away food, defrosting it, replacing the evaporator fan, keeping a constant eye on it before we finally ditched it for a Bosch (haven’t had it long enough to say if that was a good mov…

My samsung refrigerator slowly fills with water under the vegetable tray. It keeps a schedule that is pretty mysterious, so I just check it periodically to make sure it doesn't flood out onto the floor. In the winter it becomes ice for some reason, which actually is a lot more easy to clean out.

Mine does that too. Took off the back, found the drain where the condensation is supposed to go to. It's made of rusted steel. It's supposed to lead to the compressor where the heat makes it evaporate back into the room. But since it's rusted, it clogs and then eventually ices up, so the water spills into the inside back and lands under the vegetable tray.

I cleared mine out, all happy, and 3 months later it clogged back again. I don't bother fixing it because I need to remove all the contents of the fridge, then dissassemble the inside rear of the fridge to get access to the right spot. It's just a bad design.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by zwieback »

haunter wrote: post #32

Don't buy korean (LG and Samsung). Personally I only buy Bosch whenever I can.

Having grown up in Stuttgart and son of a former Bosch advisor it hurts me to say this: Bosch stuff is very mixed. We have a Bosch fridge and do not like it: too small, bad door hinges, weird interior (probably better suited for German city living). We swapped it with our old American basement fridge and that's a better fit although the cheap compressor is annoying. What I'd like is a big "empty-box" fridge with a good compressor.

The Bosch dishwasher is better, quiet but with the annoying habit of all the interior plastic parts falling apart.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by 29athrowaway »

a_gnostic wrote: post #46
29athrowaway wrote: post #25

The compressor is usually the part that fails first. Those refrigerators do not withstand a moving.

For moving, best keep it upright, and allow to settle for 24h before plugging it in.

Yes, but it still died.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by gniv »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #26

Are Miele and Sub-Zero/Wolf still reliable?

That's what I would buy yes. Sadly, "expensive" in the world of fridges is not 2-3k, but 8-10k. That's what you need to pay for long-term quality (to be sure, they still break, but in less dramatic ways).

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by xyzzy_plugh »

ProjectArcturis wrote: post #40
Verdex wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My samsung refrigerator slowly fills with water under the vegetable tray. It keeps a schedule that is pretty mysterious, so I just check it periodically to make sure it doesn't flood out onto the floor. In the winter it becomes ice for some reason, which actually is a lot more easy to clean out.

Your drain tube is freezing up. This can be fixed permanently by using a small copper wire to connect the heating element to the drain, for better heat conduction.

This is a good point. I thought I had this problem but it ended up being the water filter.

What an awful fridge.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by st-keller »

oldpersonintx wrote: post #2

our LG fridge died within two years they replaced the compressor (only due to a class action suit compelling them to), but I expect it will die prematurely again anyway I keep thermometers in the fridges and check them all the time an independent appliance repair guy told me changing brands won't help much, they are all junk now and he mostly does installations instead of repairs I responded..."even Bosch dishwashers…

Got a nice blue Bosch in 1997 - works flawlessly since then (got a little louder this year - hope that‘s not a bad sign).

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Post by redrove »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #26

Are Miele and Sub-Zero/Wolf still reliable?

Miele’s fridges have always been rebranded Liebherr IIRC. Hence why they’re reliable. Liebherr make industrial and aerospace refrigerators.

I own a 180kg french door Liebherr with no touchscreen or other bullshit, just a fridge, freezer with ice maker. I have only had it for a few years but it’s been very solid, fingers crossed.

It was a little under €6k if Iremember right.

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