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Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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our LG fridge died within two years

they replaced the compressor (only due to a class action suit compelling them to), but I expect it will die prematurely again anyway

I keep thermometers in the fridges and check them all the time

an independent appliance repair guy told me changing brands won't help much, they are all junk now and he mostly does installations instead of repairs

I responded..."even Bosch dishwashers?" to which he replied that I was probably thinking of Bosch from the 90s

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Increasing complexity to push novelty that has nothing to do with core functionality. Increasing more points of failure while incorporating second rate hardware with third rate software.

Resume Driven Design/Development in hardware is hard to hide compared to software.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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I recently bought a house with what I can only describe as some "zany" appliances. For example:

- An impeller-based washer that doesn't cover clothes in water, even with the "deep water" setting, and soil level all the way up. It frequently doesn't submerge half the stuff during the pre-soak. It's a $1,000 washer and I routinely pour water into it from the sink.

- A fridge with a giant ice maker in the refrigerator, not in the freezer. The compresser runs like 90% of the day on this thing. It's not really obvious how or where it's supposed to exchange heat. I expect it to break any day.

I spent some time on home appliance YouTube trying to figure out what was going on with appliances these days. Can recommend this guy's channel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKJgYVhZ6-w. Long story short, it's a total mess out there. Sad times in the world of modern convenience.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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See also Samsung issues: https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2023/10/2...

My Samsung lasted like 3 years before it started freezing up the ice maker and eventually it started failing during cooling. We dealt with throwing away food, defrosting it, replacing the evaporator fan, keeping a constant eye on it before we finally ditched it for a Bosch (haven’t had it long enough to say if that was a good move).

So much waste, it’s crazy how poor quality these fridges are.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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Worked in an appliance warehouse. We had two types of fridges coming back as carry-outs for new purchases: ancient models that were probably as old as I was, and models from a few years before the pickup date. Very little middle ground.

Also, without being an engineer or technician, it did always seem to me that fridges were like cars in that you had "luxury" models that were standard frames with fancy (often less-than-useful) features, and then actual luxury with brand names most people had never heard of, which had normal features implemented to a high standard and with excellent support.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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our LG fridge died within two years they replaced the compressor (only due to a class action suit compelling them to), but I expect it will die prematurely again anyway I keep thermometers in the fridges and check them all the time an independent appliance repair guy told me changing brands won't help much, they are all junk now and he mostly does installations instead of repairs I responded..."even Bosch dishwashers…

> an independent appliance repair guy told me changing brands won't help much

Take this with a grain of salt. Repairmen only see the failures and are very skewed by survivorship fallacy.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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our LG fridge died within two years they replaced the compressor (only due to a class action suit compelling them to), but I expect it will die prematurely again anyway I keep thermometers in the fridges and check them all the time an independent appliance repair guy told me changing brands won't help much, they are all junk now and he mostly does installations instead of repairs I responded..."even Bosch dishwashers…

I've heard this same remark from now 3 appliance installation/repair folk. The advise I was given was do NOT upgrade i.e. our refrigerator because it will keep working while the new models are made to die.

This really shouldn't shock anyone, it's a bit of the status quo for appliances, printers, toys, you name it. Planned obsolescence is real and going strong.

Re: Expensive fridges are dying, leading to fraud claims

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our LG fridge died within two years they replaced the compressor (only due to a class action suit compelling them to), but I expect it will die prematurely again anyway I keep thermometers in the fridges and check them all the time an independent appliance repair guy told me changing brands won't help much, they are all junk now and he mostly does installations instead of repairs I responded..."even Bosch dishwashers…

A guy I worked with spent a long time trying to source parts for his Bosch dishwasher that was leaking from underneath.

He got a couple years out of it.

He did end up finding one. Allegedly the part was redesigned, but what they meant by that was thicker foam tape.

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