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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by 2-718-281-828 »

rdtsc wrote: post #11

The "stop touching her" part was interesting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65iwnI2hjAA&t=791s One member of the group of waving the Chinese flag in Brendan's direction. He seems to have touched the flag or put his hand forward to touch the flag. The man with the group starting yelling very loudly "stop touching her". But it wasn't a desperate cry for help, it was very deliberate and forced in a way. He realized all…

text book public bullying trick #23 ... use any reason or no reason to viciously announce as loud as possible that you feel threatened and then some loud remarks to manifest your moral high ground. disgusting. experienced it myself at least once.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by foverzar »

neom wrote: post #59
foverzar wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likeness/delete the image That's my point, that's just basic politeness.

Unfortunately my friend, basic politeness is a lot to ask for in this day and age.

In the age when mocking members of some politically disliked group and generally being a troll can get you viral?

Yeah, not a chance.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by g-b-r »

The chinese guy becomes a huge moron when he claims he touched her, but the pianist is a big jerk as well.

Calling "freedom" the right to film (and publish on YouTube) anyone is ludicrous (yeah I know how many Americans do that).

Your freedom ends when others' freedoms begin, and if you had to assume that everything you do in public would be stored forever for the world to see your freedom just tanked.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by g-b-r »

foverzar wrote: post #43
BobbyJo wrote: post #27

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> asian-looking people They were waving CCP flags, so making that sounds like some kind of race blindness is a bit wild. > but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-professional vlogger understands. The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite.

> They were waving CCP flags Its a PRC flag. I don't think "CCP" flag is even a thing. CCP or Chinese isn't a race, so I don't get the "race blindness" bit at all. > The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite. Was it? I see a woman carefully approaching the guy and calmly and quietly asking if they were in the video, trying to communicate that they don't want to be. There is a clear language ba…

Yeah, although when the Chinese guy claims (and screams) that the pianist touched the girl he turned into a bigger dick.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by foverzar »

andsoitis wrote: post #42
danielspace23 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they be trolling him? They're asking for the basic courtesy of not having their faces shown online, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It seems like the pianist is the one who wanted to pick a fight: instead of getting the cameraperson to point away from them and explaining the situation politely, he went on a rant on how they're not in "communist" China, and it's a free country. In general, the whole appr…

> Why would they be trolling him? They're asking for the basic courtesy of not having their faces shown online, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It seems like the pianist is the one who wanted to pick a fight: instead of getting the cameraperson to point away from them This is a huge public area with lots of empty space (I looked at the video). When I see people recording themselves in public and I think I might b…

> Streissand effect

If truly understood their sentiment, it's probably way less uncomfortable to be published actively protesting the use of your image.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by klik99 »

maxglute wrote: post #53
klik99 wrote: post #20

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Yeah this bugs me - the police offer says "you can't just call them communists" and he says "I just said they're holding a communist flag, is that wrong?" and then uploads the video saying it's CCP. If this had been a British person who didn't want to be filmed would this video been making quite the stir? It just feels like he's milking it.

He's post a follow up video where he reads anonymous mail from "chinese" sender trying to explain/characterize how the group is obviously some intelligence op with handlers as if they're exposing some conspiracy. When it's just a bunch of people holding Chinese flags (hows that from communist tradecraft) for some function (and a white dude @2:09) and don't want to be recorded. Also doing interview circuit.

Yeah - what harm would there be in just respecting they didn't want to be filmed or kept being asked to dance? Sure they were annoying too, they could have walked away (unless they were doing a job they had to be in that spot), but he's obviously the one with more power here. It's just a stupid fight that happened in a public place that's now being spun by an influencer into more views.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by g-b-r »

wuxb wrote: post #19
ilamont wrote: post #3

I once read that France has some sort of law about photographing people who don’t want to be included in a picture in a public place. Does the UK have something similar, or is this a “little wolf warrior” misunderstanding what he can demand or do abroad?

If I peed in my pant (or in a similar awkward situation) and someone happened to have filmed it. What kind of legal rights (if any) do I have to remove my shameful moment from the Internet?

It depends if you're in a country that believes filming that is freedom :rolleyes:

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by g-b-r »

andsoitis wrote: post #42
danielspace23 wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why would they be trolling him? They're asking for the basic courtesy of not having their faces shown online, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It seems like the pianist is the one who wanted to pick a fight: instead of getting the cameraperson to point away from them and explaining the situation politely, he went on a rant on how they're not in "communist" China, and it's a free country. In general, the whole appr…

> Why would they be trolling him? They're asking for the basic courtesy of not having their faces shown online, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It seems like the pianist is the one who wanted to pick a fight: instead of getting the cameraperson to point away from them This is a huge public area with lots of empty space (I looked at the video). When I see people recording themselves in public and I think I might b…

With smartphones though it's often easy to not notice that someone is filming

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by foverzar »

g-b-r wrote: post #64
foverzar wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They were waving CCP flags Its a PRC flag. I don't think "CCP" flag is even a thing. CCP or Chinese isn't a race, so I don't get the "race blindness" bit at all. > The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite. Was it? I see a woman carefully approaching the guy and calmly and quietly asking if they were in the video, trying to communicate that they don't want to be. There is a clear language ba…

Yeah, although when the Chinese guy claims (and screams) that the pianist touched the girl he turned into a bigger dick.

Challenge of who is a bigger dick: a guy who is openly racist, makes fun of other people language skills and makes it a principle to act like a dick vs the guy who got hysterically overprotective - a challenge we truly deserve.

I don't personally believe in the "bigger dick" narrative when the whole point of trolling is provoke someone to loose their cool. The piano guy spend good few minutes poking those asian people, making fun of them and even tried grabbing one of them.

The biggest dick is the one who is looking for conflict, not the one whom they found during their trolling quest.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by g-b-r »

foverzar wrote: post #56
neom wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is a whole genre on youtube of people who go out and bother people in public with cameras "because it's their right". Check out "Amagansett Press". Fine, people have their rights. That said, In film school, we were taught that we can film anyone in public and that's our right, and also taught that if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likene…

> if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likeness/delete the image That's my point, that's just basic politeness.

It's actual law to respect that demand, in many countries
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