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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Perhaps it's a kindness. The title otherwise would be 'patriotic Chinese people threaten' ...

I'm not sure that's any better. Imagine assuming every american is CIA, or every russian is FSB.

> Imagine assuming every american is CIA

... crap- they're ON to me ...

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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What if they're protesting AGAINST the CCP, using Chinese flags to get people's attention lol

I mean... you can't put forward a case on why I'm wrong because you have no clue, just like I have no clue. At least I put forward a viable alternative vs just "lol"'ing at you.

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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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The title of the video is "Police Called To Stop Filming During Piano Livestream". There are no indications that the people who (very wrongfully) approached them are members of the CCP. They may well be but there's nothing in the video supporting that.

Yeah this bugs me - the police offer says "you can't just call them communists" and he says "I just said they're holding a communist flag, is that wrong?" and then uploads the video saying it's CCP. If this had been a British person who didn't want to be filmed would this video been making quite the stir? It just feels like he's milking it.

He's post a follow up video where he reads anonymous mail from "chinese" sender trying to explain/characterize how the group is obviously some intelligence op with handlers as if they're exposing some conspiracy. When it's just a bunch of people holding Chinese flags (hows that from communist tradecraft) for some function (and a white dude @2:09) and don't want to be recorded. Also doing interview circuit.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women. "CCP members threaten British public piano player", right. I get that some countries still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-p…

Timestamp of the almost-assault?

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women. "CCP members threaten British public piano player", right. I get that some countries still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-p…

It was pretty evil of the Asian-looking guy shouting "DON'T TOUCH HER" "You're not of the same age". He was threatened and only escalated to be a dick about it after they were a dick to him. He is also quite well within his rights, trying to intimidate him to stop doing it is pretty fucking evil as well. Have we watched the same video?

> It was pretty evil of the Asian-looking guy shouting "DON'T TOUCH HER" "You're not of the same age".

It was hysterical, but I don't see how is this evil, more like being protective. And it happened way past the point of conflict

> He was threatened and only escalated to be a dick about it after they were a dick to him.

How was he threatened? These people were barely speaking English, which the guy started mocking from the very beginning of the conversation, before he could even figure out what they were even asking for.

> Have we watched the same video?

Honestly asking the same question. Am rewatching 9:00-10:00 how the lady tries to ask the guy not to film, but he just mocks her: "No disco? No disco? Whot, the ChInEsE GoVeRnMeNt will jail us?"

How is this not being a dick?

At about the 10:00 another asian guy steps in and says "basically we ask you, whatever you do, don't publish our faces on TV, we will appreciate that"

The piano guy responds: "What happens if I don't?"

The asian guy responds: "We'll just really just appreciate if you do. We are very sensitive to this kind of thing. Sorry, we really like your music, yada-yada".

The asian guy clearly tries to deescalate and ask nicely, while the piano guy is all like "oh yeah? Watcha gonna do?"

How is this threatening?

> He is also quite well within his rights

So are people who listen to loud music when a baby is sleeping next door. They are quite within their rights, but this hardly makes them any less terrible people for doing it just to make a point.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women. "CCP members threaten British public piano player", right. I get that some countries still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-p…

There is a whole genre on youtube of people who go out and bother people in public with cameras "because it's their right". Check out "Amagansett Press". Fine, people have their rights. That said, In film school, we were taught that we can film anyone in public and that's our right, and also taught that if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likene…

> if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likeness/delete the image

That's my point, that's just basic politeness.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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CCP flags? That's just China's flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#/media/File:Flag_of_the_...

Well, this is the flag of true China: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Republic_of_Chin...

> true China

> Taiwan/ROC

And then people keep pretending they don't understand what's all the fuss between PRC and ROC is even about.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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> Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel. https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/p...

I think the train station is private property.

IANAL but "public places" is orthogonal to "private property". A mall is private property but there's no expectation of privacy because it's a "public space".

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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There is a whole genre on youtube of people who go out and bother people in public with cameras "because it's their right". Check out "Amagansett Press". Fine, people have their rights. That said, In film school, we were taught that we can film anyone in public and that's our right, and also taught that if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likene…

> if you film someone in public and they come up and tell you it's a problem, it's polite to not publish their likeness/delete the image That's my point, that's just basic politeness.

Unfortunately my friend, basic politeness is a lot to ask for in this day and age.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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What's on that link describes a very different situation from "should you be allowed to film and post online (for profit no less) private citizens who have explicitly withdrawn their consent, just because you happen to be filming them in a public place?" The police are public officials. The law in question says it is not illegal for citizens to record public officials, including police officers. I would imagine this…

If the police doesn't have such rights to stop filming anyone. I guess we can imagine a CCP rando probably don't have more permission than police. Apart from that, it's sensible to understand if you're just background on somebody's recording in a public space and don't want to appear, just walk away.

> if you're just background on somebody's recording in a public space and don't want to appear, just walk away.

He approached them first. They declined participating and in about 3 minutes one woman approached him back and asked not to put their faces on TV - that's when the whole fuss had started.

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