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Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by neom »

jacknews wrote: post #21
jacknews wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

true, they didn't say 'stop filming or we'll break your legs', but it was nonetheless attempt to intimidate.

I'm now slightly intrigued as to what they are actually doing. By their accents, they've clearly been in UK for a while, are gathered for some kind of patriotic celebration or whatever, and very much don't want to be filmed. It's most likely just a university compatriot get-together or something similar, but this is the fuel of conspiracy theories, sleeper cells, etc.

Some people just don't want to be filmed in public. My wife is Korean and would probably act the same way (half because in Korea it's illegal). I couldn't care less, but I can think of a few people I know who would have the same reaction (for a multitude of reasons) as this group. What if they're protesting AGAINST the CCP, using Chinese flags to get people's attention then telling them about issues going on with the Uyghurs? This guy puts them on YT and now the CCP is looking into them. I'd say that's just as probably as them being CCP (no indication in the vide).

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by danielspace23 »

andsoitis wrote: post #14

It looks like the individuals were trolling him ("don't share video online that shows us in the picture...") or just trying to pick a fight. Unfortunately, these days you have to assume that someone is taking video or photos in public space and it might mean you end up online without your permission. In very rare cases such a video might go viral which then can draw attention to yourself.

Why would they be trolling him? They're asking for the basic courtesy of not having their faces shown online, it doesn't seem unreasonable to me. It seems like the pianist is the one who wanted to pick a fight: instead of getting the cameraperson to point away from them and explaining the situation politely, he went on a rant on how they're not in "communist" China, and it's a free country. In general, the whole approach towards them seems sketchy. Earlier in the video he calls it a group of Japanese people, despite them clearly having Chinese flags, and he asks them if they can dance. That's a bit weird, isn't it?

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by cassianoleal »

klik99 wrote: post #20
cassianoleal wrote: post #5

The title of the video is "Police Called To Stop Filming During Piano Livestream". There are no indications that the people who (very wrongfully) approached them are members of the CCP. They may well be but there's nothing in the video supporting that.

Yeah this bugs me - the police offer says "you can't just call them communists" and he says "I just said they're holding a communist flag, is that wrong?" and then uploads the video saying it's CCP. If this had been a British person who didn't want to be filmed would this video been making quite the stir? It just feels like he's milking it.

He is definitely milking it. Note that he's absolutely in his right to film and publish this. The people complaining have no standing which is why in the end it got filmed and published.

Also the policewoman's stance was absolutely disgraceful.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by frant-hartm »

foverzar wrote: post #18

So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women. "CCP members threaten British public piano player", right. I get that some countries still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-p…

> still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background

What countries require to "blur people in the background"?

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by greatgib »

In this video, something that amaze me and that is quite unique to UK in my opinion is how correct and respectful are the police officers.

In most countries, they would have used (and abused) of their authority to yell at the guy. Telling him that he has to shut up whatever they say even if not true. And otherwise it would be police offense.

Here, despite the tension they keep their calm, try to stay respectful and not aggressive and do what they can to defuse the situation.

In my opinion, it works very well to have the person in front reduce their aggressivity.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by danielspace23 »

BobbyJo wrote: post #27
foverzar wrote: post #18

So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women. "CCP members threaten British public piano player", right. I get that some countries still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-p…

> asian-looking people They were waving CCP flags, so making that sounds like some kind of race blindness is a bit wild. > but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-professional vlogger understands. The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite.

CCP flags? That's just China's flag. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China#/media/File:Flag_of_the_...

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by jacknews »

neom wrote: post #31
jacknews wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm now slightly intrigued as to what they are actually doing. By their accents, they've clearly been in UK for a while, are gathered for some kind of patriotic celebration or whatever, and very much don't want to be filmed. It's most likely just a university compatriot get-together or something similar, but this is the fuel of conspiracy theories, sleeper cells, etc.

Some people just don't want to be filmed in public. My wife is Korean and would probably act the same way (half because in Korea it's illegal). I couldn't care less, but I can think of a few people I know who would have the same reaction (for a multitude of reasons) as this group. What if they're protesting AGAINST the CCP, using Chinese flags to get people's attention then telling them about issues going on with the…

   What if they're protesting AGAINST the CCP, using Chinese flags to get people's attention
lol

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by hashtag-til »

tpoacher wrote: post #30
0xSNAFU wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Members of the public and the media do not need a permit to film or photograph in public places and police have no power to stop them filming or photographing incidents or police personnel. https://www.met.police.uk/advice/advice-and-information/ph/p...

What's on that link describes a very different situation from "should you be allowed to film and post online (for profit no less) private citizens who have explicitly withdrawn their consent, just because you happen to be filming them in a public place?" The police are public officials. The law in question says it is not illegal for citizens to record public officials, including police officers. I would imagine this…

If the police doesn't have such rights to stop filming anyone. I guess we can imagine a CCP rando probably don't have more permission than police.

Apart from that, it's sensible to understand if you're just background on somebody's recording in a public space and don't want to appear, just walk away.

Re: CCP members threaten British public piano player [video]

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Post by [deleted] »

BobbyJo wrote: post #27
foverzar wrote: post #18

So, some asian-looking people asked the guy not to film them and the guy decided to be a loud dick about the whole thing, while almost assaulting one of the women. "CCP members threaten British public piano player", right. I get that some countries still don't have a legal requirement to blur people in the background (or at least when they asked you to), but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-p…

> asian-looking people They were waving CCP flags, so making that sounds like some kind of race blindness is a bit wild. > but this is a common courtesy and basic politeness every semi-professional vlogger understands. The way they acted when asking not to be filmed was very impolite.

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