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Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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post #60

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Playing video games is very common and requires 3D acceleration for most games. It's not some niche requirement.

Are there many 3D-accelerated games ported to BeOS?

There's wine, but then again there's also 3d acceleration now (limited to some AMD cards).

Web browsers and such do also leverage the gpu for rendering.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

#112

Loved BeOS, and love HaikuOS. But a "daily driver" it is most certainly not. Don't be fooled.

If your daily driver is only web and email you can drive anything.

FDE still a stopper, in this post-Snowden world.

Can't afford to do much on a machine that doesn't meet that bar.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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post #86

cpp was a poor choice for the system but Haiku is cute. The dev team should figure out 2D/3D acceleration and this thing will fly. 64 bit edition has finally abandoned BeOS compatibility and looks really promising as a quick tiny hobbyist OS.

cpp is probably inherited from beos.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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Early 2000s it was my daily driver. But man.. I used the filesystem like it was indented.. All my files had attributes. Unfortunately none of the metadata was supported on other platforms. Lots of wasted energy :) I loved BeOS

Did you ever use Scott Hacker's CD ripping script? It got the track info from cddb, added the attributes to both the mp3 files and the BFS extended attributes.

I don't remember if I was ripping CDs at that point to be honest. I know my mp3s were all tagged and also used attributes. I think the playback position was also an attribute.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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post #100

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These two things are linked.

This statement got me thinking. How do you mean? I wonder if you're thinking what I'm thinking.

A solo developer or a small team can create a very focused, consistent product. But once the masses of people are drawn to it, both as customers and as contributors, maintaining a hold on it as a visionary is difficult. Id argue that squeezing too hard to maintain that hold can strangle the project. A perfect idealized initial design and initial vision can drive consistency further along the timeline, but this is an ideal. We create something, then we give it to the world to be consumed. Haiku is still in its cocoon. It is unclear what would happen to it should it achieve the focus of the hivemind. It is unclear if the development team would even like that.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

#116

Loved BeOS, and love HaikuOS. But a "daily driver" it is most certainly not. Don't be fooled.

I have to try Haiku, but the last time I used BeOS everything effectively ran as root. Not that Unix-style user permissions are the epitome of OS security, but at least an RCE vulnerability in the browser doesn't allow for persistent root or whatever.

I am not an expert, just remembering what I saw. I tinker with it a little (and am writing this in a Haiku OS VM, through Falkon.)

There is a daemon running when I call `ps` that I see is called package_daemon. I think it is this one: I think it has exclusive access to a set of directories where software and such is installed. There is no sudo, su, etc. because you don't need it. hpkg files are loaded by the package daemon into the correct paths.

I looked at this a few months ago just to get what it is doing. It has to have some security model that protects certain paths at least. This looked like it.

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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post #97

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BeFS is its own awesome thing. Sure, ZFS integrity and portability is nice, but the speed and metadata of BeFS is great.

Sure, but adding metadata to zfs would probably be easier than modernizing BeFS. Just in general as FSes are very worthy of being a project unto themselves. Thinking of low lying fruit to get maximum value easily. BeFS doesn’t have to go anywhere either.

Dominic Giampaolo (the author of BeFS) did essentially that with Spotlight (also the author of Spotlight) on HFS & APFS (also the author of APFS).

Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024

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post #112

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If your daily driver is only web and email you can drive anything.

FDE still a stopper, in this post-Snowden world. Can't afford to do much on a machine that doesn't meet that bar.

If you’re only using it for web then booting into a “live CD” is good enough.

Arguably live CD and encrypted removable storage which stays with you at all times is probably harder to defeat than most FDE.

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