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Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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Many things give you wifi speed, if you're connected to wifi. With Airdrop, if you are on the moon and meet a stranger there who also has an iphone, you can perform the high-speed transfer of large files.

wouldn't it use bluetooth in that case? Or does it create adhoc wifi connections somehow?

It will use bluetooth for discovery and then establish an adhoc wifi connection between the two devices.

Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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post #107

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And the remote user's authentication is handled, how? And the routing, NAT, and discovery of your server's private IP address is handled?

None of that is necessary because you are not exposing anything to the internet. We are still talking about local sharing. Android does not have a firewall so there really is nothing to configure. But if you think it cannot be possible, try it for yourself.

Ok, let's paint this picture:

You scan a QR code to connect to someone's wifi.

All your traffic can now be captured. DNS requests will be logged. Some traffic might be redirected. When will the connection be closed? What if someone shows you a different QR code, and you're not that tech-savvy. For example a phishing webpage which asks for the user's password. Many many many people will still just enter their single-password-for-everything. What if the QR code is a deeplink to an app.. for example to a conversation on or whatever. Or maybe someone was previously logged in into some account.

Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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snapdrop.net does. It works locally in your network Peer2Peer

It doesn't do what airdrop does, although it is a step better than Sharedrop, in that it doesn't require the data be sent over the internet. But it still has a lot of extra hassle that airdrop doesn't have. If you're away from home, you first have to enable Mobile Hotspot to create a wifi network (and pay your carrier for the right, since it's usually locked down in Android), then manually connect your other device t…

I see your point now. Here no phone with a Contract is locked anymore, and certainly no Bullshit like "locked Functions" that you have to pay extra for like Tethering. So it's not a huge hassle to quickly spin up a hotspot.

But Android offers a Airdrop-Like-Feature natively called "Nearby Share" but what still sucks in my POV that there is still no Cross-Plattform-Solution between iPhones and Android out there

Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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post #116

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> here is how I can share a file from my phone to any other phone in the same Wifi. This will not work on many public and corporate networks. A common place where you’d want to share. > surely there is an opportunity create a simpler UI! It’ll still suck compared to Airdrop. Apple has gone to a lot of trouble to make that work as well as it does. Trying to setup something relying on temporary hotspots will be sub par…

I did this in public networks and it did work, but I am not an expert in how they are set up. When do you think it would not work?

Wireless Client Isolation.

Here is but one vendor doc. https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/Firewall_and_Traffic_Sha...

It is standard practice to enable this these days in public networks and it is so common that even consumer grade shit router now come with an option to enable.

Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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All of these "alternatives to airdop" don't seem to actually do what airdrop does, which is create an ad-hoc wireless connection. Airdrop isn't just a nice UI for sending files between people, it allows a wi-fi speed transfer between two devices that aren't connected to an existing network of that speed.

"All of these "alternatives to airdop" don't seem to actually do what airdrop does, which is create an ad-hoc wireless connection."

Not all of them.

"Airdrop isn't just a nice UI for sending files between people, it allows a wi-fi speed transfer between two [Apple] devices that aren't connected to an existing network of that speed."

More precisely, WiFi Direct allows it.

There is no reason why one should not be able to use WiFi Direct to transfer files between Apple hardware and non-Apple hardware.

But Apple and Google, via iOS and Android, stop users from using WiFi Direct to do it.

WiFi Direct does not belong to Apple, or Google.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wi-Fi_Direct

Everyone who buys a computer from these companies should be able to write applications that use WiFi Direct. The chips support it. The buyers own the hardware, not Apple or Google.

Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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> create an ad-hoc wireless connection. Every Android device I've used has had "Send via Bluetooth" functionality built in. Is the WiFi connection just significantly faster or does it provide other additional benefits?

You would need to use "Nearby Share" for that. But it's also Standard with Androif

Sure now walk away from the person while the file is transfering... on airdrop it finishes over the internet after you walk out of range :)

Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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post #21

If you already use Tailscale, Taildrop [1] works great. [1] https://tailscale.com/kb/1106/taildrop

I wanted to use this, but reading the documentation, my understanding was that with tailscale data goes through a server. Am I understanding it correctly? EDIT > This makes it a great solution for sending sensitive or large files without third-party servers in the middle. It clearly says the opposite. I don't know where I got that idea from.

At the very worse case (NAT hell or something else) they may use a DERP relay. But if you have a cooperative connection or plain local connection it works fine.

There's encryption overhead though, I can't saturate a 1Gbps over Tailscale on M1, while direct connection works (iperf3).

Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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You would need to use "Nearby Share" for that. But it's also Standard with Androif

Sure now walk away from the person while the file is transfering... on airdrop it finishes over the internet after you walk out of range :)

Nearby Share can also use the internet to transfer it

Re: Free and Open Source Alternative to Airdrop

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Will an iPhone work in a vacuum?

You’re kidding, but a working phone was found on the ground after the panel blew out of the Boeing a few weeks ago. https://www.theverge.com/2024/1/8/24029806/boeing-737-max-9-... I don’t think there’s anything in a phone that’d stop its core functions in a vacuum. The human trying to use it, not so much.

I was kind of kidding, but I was also kind of intrigued by the idea. My instinct is that it would work in a vacuum, but that is just a gut feeling. But I also could not think of why one could not.
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