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Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by superkuh » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 4:23 PM UTC

gruez wrote: post #108

superkuh wrote: post #63

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Shadowsocks does work against MITM attacks by my US ISP Comcast though. It is great software.

What "MITM attacks" are you talking about?

Comcast started attacking it's customers via MITM about ~2013 or so. Initially it was ads, https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=co... . This would break things like, say, the Steam browser and prevent it from working. I literally had this happen to me. Eventually Comcast changed it's terms of service and violated it's contracts with existing customers and started limiting total data transfer to about 1 TB/mo. When it started doing this it also started MITM injecting JS about your usage into HTTP connections: https://rietta.com/blog/comcast-insecure-injection/

Comcast is the only non-56k ISP available in my area still in 2024. So I use them... but I also have to make sure to protect myself from their attacks. If I did what they're doing I'd go to prison. But some types of legal persons have more rights than human persons.

Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by [deleted] » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 5:27 PM UTC

edot wrote: post #164

Lendal wrote: post #156

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You might see some confused faces. To most English speakers "fortune" mostly means good, unless it is preceded by something that specifies that it is bad fortune, like "ill fortune" or misfortune.

Their English is actually good enough to properly use sarcasm. “I had the fortune of getting food poisoning last week” would be understood as a joking way of taking about misfortune.

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Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by Lendal » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 5:30 PM UTC

edot wrote: post #164

Lendal wrote: post #156

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You might see some confused faces. To most English speakers "fortune" mostly means good, unless it is preceded by something that specifies that it is bad fortune, like "ill fortune" or misfortune.

Their English is actually good enough to properly use sarcasm. “I had the fortune of getting food poisoning last week” would be understood as a joking way of taking about misfortune.

It is. But just because you speak English doesn't mean you use sarcasm constantly. Sarcasm is a lazy way of communicating in almost any language. It reveals lazy thinking and poor vocabulary. I never assume someone is using sarcasm when they could actually be speaking intelligently, albeit with a common grammatical error.

Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by dantyti » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 5:35 PM UTC

timka wrote: post #232

This is HN not PN. I do realize HN is full of libertarian spoiled youth (and spoiled not-so-youth-already including myself) but I don't want to teach anyone how to live. The time will show. I do understand libertarians. I personally was really unhappy to see more and more "regular people" getting internet access since the late 90s. Now the Internet is full of crap. I have trouble finding stuff that was easy to find i…

You think you're not mainstream, but your whole spiel is written in imperialist, anitsemitic tropes, which Russia is so well-known for. Corrupt police in Russia not persecuting drug dealers? A true underground. Human rights abuses? All par of the course.

Here's what my country lost with your 'union': our occupiers, abusers, and enslavers. 'The time' already showed us what's what. Good riddance.

Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by Georgelemental » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 5:48 PM UTC

blue_pants wrote: post #228

Georgelemental wrote: post #221

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> the arrest was lawful He was arrested for political speech, which is ipso facto an unjust violation of his fundamental human rights and of natural law. Putin's Russia also has "laws" that justify the arrest of dissidents, doesn't make it OK. (And many of the other people on Lira's list were simply summarily executed, without any trial or other legal process)

I don't know what political speech means to you. Are you aware that Ukraine engaged in an existential war? Gonzalo Lira was justifying Russian aggression against Ukraine, denying the facts of Russian missile strikes on Ukrainian cities, as well as massacres of civilian Ukrainians by Russian invaders in Bucha and other cities. Then he was taken into custody because he violated the terms of his bail and tried to escape…

If a state's continued existence relies on restricting people's fundamental human right to free expression, then that state deserves to die.

Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by patrakov » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 6:25 PM UTC

canjobear wrote: post #172

For what it's worth I tried NordVPN in China recently and all the servers were blocked. Totally useless. But weirdly, when I connected to the internet over cell data on my phone, there was no blocking at all...

Was that a Chinese SIM or a foreign SIM in roaming? Hong Kong SIM cards are an effective way to circumvent the Chinese firewall, and, if you don't mind the prohibitive cost, they work against the Russian firewall, too.

Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by canjobear » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 7:02 PM UTC

patrakov wrote: post #246

canjobear wrote: post #172

For what it's worth I tried NordVPN in China recently and all the servers were blocked. Totally useless. But weirdly, when I connected to the internet over cell data on my phone, there was no blocking at all...

Was that a Chinese SIM or a foreign SIM in roaming? Hong Kong SIM cards are an effective way to circumvent the Chinese firewall, and, if you don't mind the prohibitive cost, they work against the Russian firewall, too.

American SIM. I just turned on my phone and the whole internet was accessible (unless I connected to someone’s Wifi). I was surprised that it was so easy.

Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by d3vmax » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 9:59 PM UTC

Georgelemental wrote: post #215

Const-me wrote: post #214

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> not nearly as rosy as yours Ukraine is at war, nothing rosy about that. Still, living conditions of people north of Kyiv, north of Kharkiv, or in Kherson is dramatically better than GP’s situation. Note GP can’t even freely talk to English-speaking strangers here on HN because they fear the consequences from the Russian invaders who call themselves “government”. GP has very good reasons for that fear. Russians are…

> Still, living conditions of people north of Kyiv, north of Kharkiv, or in Kherson is dramatically better than GP’s situation. They are also dramatically better in Moscow, St. Petersburg, or Vladivostok. Of course being far from the front lines is better than being near them. > GP can’t even freely talk to English-speaking stranger People in Ukrainian-controlled territory can't talk freely either, there have been ma…

Gonzalo Lira was Pro-Russia supporter during war time. See the way he spoke about women and what his real intentions were. More about the real Gonzalo, who was a paid russian shill: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4nyvrMYGEz4

Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by UberFly » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 10:14 PM UTC

EasyMark wrote: post #204

genman wrote: post #167

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I was so hopeful in the beginning of 90s. There was sense of harmony all over the Northern hemisphere. But then Russia started to quickly become more and more aggressive, yes, first in the rhetoric, but then Putin came and the shit became real. Now I understand that the Russian society first had a kind of agreement with him - they don't mind the politics and Putin doesn't mind them. It looks like it has played out we…

The USA dropped the ball on this. I was screaming at the news (or anyone that would listen :) ) that we needed work closer with Yeltsin/Gorbachev to support the burgeoning democracy. The USA just patted itself on the back and didn't do anything diplomatically/financially other than lip service to build economic ties and then the big collapse and rise of oligarchs and Putin.

They actually did open up relations a lot, but Russia was like Mordor and the old ways were just too ingrained. The ball was less dropped and more the air slowly deflated.

Re: Tell HN: Russia has started blocking OpenVPN/WireGuard connections

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Post by timka » Sun, Jan 21, 2024, 10:31 PM UTC

dantyti wrote: post #244

timka wrote: post #232

This is HN not PN. I do realize HN is full of libertarian spoiled youth (and spoiled not-so-youth-already including myself) but I don't want to teach anyone how to live. The time will show. I do understand libertarians. I personally was really unhappy to see more and more "regular people" getting internet access since the late 90s. Now the Internet is full of crap. I have trouble finding stuff that was easy to find i…

You think you're not mainstream, but your whole spiel is written in imperialist, anitsemitic tropes, which Russia is so well-known for. Corrupt police in Russia not persecuting drug dealers? A true underground. Human rights abuses? All par of the course. Here's what my country lost with your 'union': our occupiers, abusers, and enslavers. 'The time' already showed us what's what. Good riddance.

You're missing the point. I am mainstream. I'm 42, I've had enough of underground but totally understand it since this is where I came from. And this totally normal.

I don't have to stay teenage for the rest of my life.