I noticed you're loading jQuery before testing the page's URL. You'd be better off testing the URL first to prevent unnecessarily loading jQuery.
Or better, get rid of jQuery completely.
What do you have against jquery?
Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
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Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#52I like the karma system overall, and I think the general quality of discussion on HN is evidence that things are mostly working well. The only thing I find off about it is the average karma on profile pages. Personally, I find that it subconsciously dissuades me from commenting anywhere that is likely to result in few/no upvotes. My first comment on a story might get 20, 40, 80 upvotes, but any extended discussion is…
"The only thing I find off about it is the average karma on profile pages. Personally, I find that it subconsciously dissuades me from commenting anywhere that is likely to result in few/no upvotes. My first comment on a story might get 20, 40, 80 upvotes, but any extended discussion is going to be rather nested, and so you're essentially burning through your average as each comment sits with only one or two votes. S…
This is one of the downsides to the karma game - people tend to be reluctant to do anything which will hurt their score. Stories are dead after about 12 hours, and almost nobody checks their comments unless they're in a flame war.
Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#53Earlier quoted context omitted.
Often times the people complaining about groupthink are also the ones acting immature. If you inject in your comment the feel of someone trying to rebel ("I know I'm going to get down voted..." or "I hate to be that guy..."), you're already starting off wrong. Act the part of an adult and you'll be treated like one. I've found that if I spend a few minutes to justify my belief, and approach the discussion as that of…
>Often times the people complaining about groupthink are also the ones acting immature. Not everytime though. Especially in topics like Microsoft/Apple/Google, the moderation is brutal if you don't fit in the groupthink. A big example: http://winsupersite.com is hellbanned on HN from being submitted as a story(if you do it will show up for you, but actually it's killed so won't show up for others at all). What crime…
This is essentially why I wrote the script. My reflection is that you used to be able to disagree with someone on HN and have a discussion. It was occasionally heated, but nobody really took it personally.
These days, anything mildly controversial or disagreeable gets downvoted to death, often without any response at all. In those cases, asking for some sort of cogent response only gets you more downvotes...
Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#54I like the karma system overall, and I think the general quality of discussion on HN is evidence that things are mostly working well. The only thing I find off about it is the average karma on profile pages. Personally, I find that it subconsciously dissuades me from commenting anywhere that is likely to result in few/no upvotes. My first comment on a story might get 20, 40, 80 upvotes, but any extended discussion is…
Once I realized that most of my karma was coming from my most casual comments, I stopped attaching much importance to it at all.
My main issue with that attitude is that it primarily comes from older users with a ton of karma. Of course you don't need to worry about it.
Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#55Earlier quoted context omitted.
>Often times the people complaining about groupthink are also the ones acting immature. Not everytime though. Especially in topics like Microsoft/Apple/Google, the moderation is brutal if you don't fit in the groupthink. A big example: http://winsupersite.com is hellbanned on HN from being submitted as a story(if you do it will show up for you, but actually it's killed so won't show up for others at all). What crime…
> Not everytime though. No doubt. Hence my careful phrasing. =) > Just because you haven't experienced this... I have. But even then, if I take an honest look at what I wrote, I find I could easily discern how it comes off as me acting the part of an asshole. You post several examples (of which many are merely people complaining about downvotes which aren't contributing anything meaningful and should not be encourage…
Stop worrying about little arrows, and just be polite, post intelligently, and contribute.
I think that's what he's trying to do!
Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#56Earlier quoted context omitted.
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=3148927
I see, thanks. I misunderstood your comment to mean that karma was calculated on comments between 6 and 50 points , instead of what you meant, which is the last 50 comments minus the five most recent. Unfortunately, it doesn't weight for in-depth discussions or comments on less-popular articles.
In the hope you see my reply:
LessWrong has a partial solution for this (possibly inherited from reddit). When you log in, you can see if anyone replied to one of your comments, and you can go to a page listing such replies. It is therefore encourages looong threads of discussions, much of which are worth my while in LessWrong.
It is also possible to reply to years old comments.
About the karma end of the problem, one could try to weight karma by the inverse of exposure. Right now, early comments are disproportionately voted up, while later comments can be nearly totally ignored even if they're very good. But that's a big change, easy to screw up (not to mention it may be a bad idea to begin with).
Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#57Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that's good advice, and I would like to send it along also to the tiny-minded portion of users here on HN who campaign personal, pityful battles on others by systematically downvoting their posts for no apparent reason, as well as those who just can't seem to let things fly, but rather just have to hammer down on users with opinions they simply don't agree with. I think the karma system as it stands now is pr…
Who can down-vote? Not me. Seems to me that it's people who have written lots of good comments that can down-vote. And of course, people running scripts that help them achieve high karma that they can abuse. A simple "I Like This" without any count would be enough IMHO. Or at least a simple rule that you can only down-vote if you write a positively karma'd comment to the post you down-vote.
What kind of script would that be?
It won't be able to make good comments (I hope), so it would have to monitor pages that have been cited often and submit new things as soon as they pop up. Any other options?
Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#58Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who can down-vote? Not me. Seems to me that it's people who have written lots of good comments that can down-vote. And of course, people running scripts that help them achieve high karma that they can abuse. A simple "I Like This" without any count would be enough IMHO. Or at least a simple rule that you can only down-vote if you write a positively karma'd comment to the post you down-vote.
What kind of script would that be? It won't be able to make good comments (I hope), so it would have to monitor pages that have been cited often and submit new things as soon as they pop up. Any other options?
A script that logs in to Hacker News on 10+ different accounts and upvotes comments by you. Everyone can upvote.
Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#59Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that's good advice, and I would like to send it along also to the tiny-minded portion of users here on HN who campaign personal, pityful battles on others by systematically downvoting their posts for no apparent reason, as well as those who just can't seem to let things fly, but rather just have to hammer down on users with opinions they simply don't agree with. I think the karma system as it stands now is pr…
Who can down-vote? Not me. Seems to me that it's people who have written lots of good comments that can down-vote. And of course, people running scripts that help them achieve high karma that they can abuse. A simple "I Like This" without any count would be enough IMHO. Or at least a simple rule that you can only down-vote if you write a positively karma'd comment to the post you down-vote.
I think you need maybe 500 or 750 karma before you can downvote.
In theory this means that people only downvote for "doesn't belong on HN" or perhaps "blatantly factually incorrect" posts, rather than "I do not agree with this posts".
HN does have some protection against "voting rings" - so a script or a bunch of friends that all vote for each other probably would be caught. I don't know any of the internals.
I like your idea about only allowing downvoting if you can create a coherent post about why you're downvoting. But the most blatant trolls don't deserve any comment.
Re: Show HN: I got tired of stressing about my karma, so I wrote this.
#60Earlier quoted context omitted.
Who can down-vote? Not me. Seems to me that it's people who have written lots of good comments that can down-vote. And of course, people running scripts that help them achieve high karma that they can abuse. A simple "I Like This" without any count would be enough IMHO. Or at least a simple rule that you can only down-vote if you write a positively karma'd comment to the post you down-vote.
I think you need maybe 500 or 750 karma before you can downvote. In theory this means that people only downvote for "doesn't belong on HN" or perhaps "blatantly factually incorrect" posts, rather than "I do not agree with this posts". HN does have some protection against "voting rings" - so a script or a bunch of friends that all vote for each other probably would be caught. I don't know any of the internals. I like…
> In theory this means that people only downvote for "doesn't belong on HN" or perhaps "blatantly factually incorrect" posts, rather than "I do not agree with this posts".
The intention was that maybe, but is it true in practice?
> But the most blatant trolls don't deserve any comment.
Old-school individual "killfiles" would do. As it is now some people seem to be locked out of HN by a crowd of anonymous people. It seems to me that the current system is a bit naive about the goodness of how high-karmas act.