Around 2000 a fully functional BeOS Personal edition was included in a PC Magazine CD. It was fun to try other operating system (I didn't even had to create a partition, something hard to do considering our PC had just 8GB of DD).
It was much faster than Windows 98, although didn't have much applications.
Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024
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Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024
#72Once you start gluing various ported Linux applications onto these alternative OSes, they start to lose their distinctiveness and raison d'être. If you are using Qt/KDE apps, anyways, what does Haiku really bring to the table other than a smaller footprint? I never programmed for BeOS back in the day, but my understanding was that half the advantage of it was its consistent clean ground-up API for building multimedia…
Haiku's "raison d'être" is to be a fully-fledged desktop operating system for general use. So, if there aren't native applications to fulfill daily tasks, then Linux ones tend to get ported.
Anyway, as for the question "why Haiku, if it's just ported Linux apps?" well, because Haiku is a much more cohesive system than any Linux distro. Even if every app you are running on it is from Linux (besides Tracker and Deskbar), the entire system underneath those applications remains tightly integrated.
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#73Earlier quoted context omitted.
I could not disagree more about Windows 95 looking "dated". It's one the clearest, simplest, and easiest to parse UIs I've ever seen. Buttons look like buttons. Scroll bars are thick and clear. Draggable objects are obvious. It's a huge shame that we've gone only backwards since then, IMHO.
One convention we lost was that text fields have sunken white background and other areas of the UI are generally grey. UI now uses bright white in most places, eventually causing the world to invent dark mode. It's really gone backward.
One regression that really annoys me: in recent KDE themes, the default "active window" and "background window" titlebar colors are indistinguishable. So you have no clue where all your input events are going to go.
And if you actually set them to reasonable colors, certain applications do weird epileptic things (looking at you, Firefox!)
Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024
#74Loved BeOS, and love HaikuOS. But a "daily driver" it is most certainly not. Don't be fooled.
Early 2000s it was my daily driver. But man.. I used the filesystem like it was indented.. All my files had attributes. Unfortunately none of the metadata was supported on other platforms. Lots of wasted energy :) I loved BeOS
I used the filesystem like it was indented.
Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024
#75Earlier quoted context omitted.
Early 2000s it was my daily driver. But man.. I used the filesystem like it was indented.. All my files had attributes. Unfortunately none of the metadata was supported on other platforms. Lots of wasted energy :) I loved BeOS
I used the filesystem like it was indented. What does `indented` mean here. Not familiar with this usage.
Almost certainly they meant to write “intended”.
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Video games, video playback, video encoding, video effects, desktop window effects and compositing, high res scrolling (I use an 8K display).
> video playback, video encoding, video effects, [...] high res scrolling (I use an 8K display). Are those 3D graphics? > desktop window effects and compositing, Does Haiku use those? If not, it seems irrelevant. > Video games, That's the one that I'll agree with, but is depends what we mean by "daily driver"; I was thinking of what would be needed to do productive work, and that possibly restricted by what kind of w…
> Are those 3D graphics?
Not exactly but all hardware accelerated rendering today is done using the same APIs as 3D graphics. You would use OpenGL (or any other API) and basically render everything without the third dimension. There is no hardware accelerated graphics API for 2D graphics specifically anymore, they are all built on top of 3D graphics.
Re: Haiku OS: The Open Source BeOS You Can Daily Drive in 2024
#77How well would this run on a 22” 2017ish iMac?
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Sometimes I wonder what kids will consider a 'button' since their first few years will be touch screens, magic corner trackpads, and no-show clickers in MightyMice. Do TV remotes even have physical buttons any more?
TV remotes do still have buttons. Also, there are still on/off buttons and volume buttons on phones. Video game controllers still use buttons. Car radios and car A/C and heaters still use physical buttons.
> Car radios and car A/C and heaters still use physical buttons.
Depends on the car's year, make, and model. It could be touchscreen only.
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They not just waste space but at the same time break some of the UI. Recently it took me half a minute to drag a window into view on Mac OS because aside from a few pixels every single part of the window "title bar" was actually some button or widget. I wish mainstream operating systems implemented DWM's shortcuts for window dragging/resizing, those are amazing: holding the key and left mouse button makes the window…
The interface peaked in Windows 2000. XP and beyond were a mistake, UI/UX wise.
Irix, OS 8, and perhaps Enlightenment are high water marks for me. I can see people’s affinity for 2000 though.