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Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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background: - over the weekend I started making the @htmx_org twitter account increasingly corporate looking - started talking a lot about MSFT, implying they were interested in htmx - someone asked if MSFT was going to buy htmx: https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746656784088228204 - i then put up a post about changing the htmx license, implying i was going to restrict it due to MSFT interest: https://fxtwitter.…

> the reason i did all this is for the lols Do the lols while you still can, the Trust and Safety departments at major social media companies want to extinguish funny. Everyone who does even a smidgen of memeing on the internet knows what happens when you post images of large spiders. People start talking about burning things down, like the entire building its inside of, etc. Someone posted a video where a little gir…

Meanwhile someone was using my late brother's name and face(in a list of supposed "vaccine casualties". My brother died from heart failure after lifelong illness, age 39) to spread vile antivaxx/protrump stuff.

All reports denied. It was glaringly obvious she was a paid misinfo troll.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Presuming that 'MIT' was a typo: most BSD-licensed software doesn't use the original (4-clause) BSD license, most are under variants: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses

No, it wasn't a typo; the 0-clause BSD looks pretty similar to the MIT license, and from a cursory reading, it appears that the clauses are what makes the BSD license different from the MIT license. I was wondering if my reading is correct or if I've missed something.

MIT has several (very important) requirements that BSD-0 does not. MIT is more similar to BSD-2-clause. It requires the user to include the copyright notice and disclaimer in any distributions.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Mongodb was/is for a long time inconsistent. You had to worry loosing data when using mongo. And everything mongodb brought us, was either implemented by someone else better or already existed. If you use mongodb today, just go with postgres and forget about mongo

Yes there used to be issues with mongo (and Postgres around serializable for the matter). What are the issues in 2024?

Breaks causal consistency and a bunch of other assumptions:

https://jepsen.io/analyses/mongodb-4.2.6

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

#56

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Yes there used to be issues with mongo (and Postgres around serializable for the matter). What are the issues in 2024?

Breaks causal consistency and a bunch of other assumptions: https://jepsen.io/analyses/mongodb-4.2.6

4 years old. Mongodb is at version 7 now.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

#57

background: - over the weekend I started making the @htmx_org twitter account increasingly corporate looking - started talking a lot about MSFT, implying they were interested in htmx - someone asked if MSFT was going to buy htmx: https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746656784088228204 - i then put up a post about changing the htmx license, implying i was going to restrict it due to MSFT interest: https://fxtwitter.…

Good for you, and the spirit of open software.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Talks about lack of professional seriousness. Goes with MongoDB. Sometimes reality writes the best jokes.

I'm pretty sure that was a joke.

I wasn't sure at first but on a re-read it now seems glaringly obvious it's a joke :D

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Your lack of professional seriousness is truly astounding. One of the primary reasons we've gone with React/NextJS coupled with MongoDB and Kubernetes over HTMX

Talks about lack of professional seriousness. Goes with MongoDB. Sometimes reality writes the best jokes.

Sometimes the best jokes look like reality.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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I'm curious, what exactly would a VC or MSFT want with htmx? Just talent? or the actual product/tech?

I don't think there's much VCs would want w/htmx: it's a really simple concept implemented in a single js file w/no moats or obvious market opportunities as far as i can tell, and I'm a one man shop. I think I got the calls because htmx trended on twitter a couple of times.

MSFT might want it because it's gotten a lot of attention lately (finished #2 in https://risingstars.js.org/2023/en#section-framework for 2023) and would give them a front-end library in the game w/ React, Vue, Svelte, etc. On the other hand, i've made the social media account pretty toxic/funny (same thing) for a big tech company and now the library is 0BSD, and htmx's agnosticism towards back end tech doesn't really dovetail w/ the Microsoft ethos.

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