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Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by samsquire »

I use the zero clause licence for my all my work because it just removes all the overhead of using my code.

I think (please correct my understanding) zero clause BSD can be embedded in a GPL project too, it just becomes one-way included, subsumed into the GPL project and then under the GPL licence. (Relicenced)

Could the author of HTMX explain their reasoning for changing the licence? I am curious?

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by recursivedoubts »

background:

- over the weekend I started making the @htmx_org twitter account increasingly corporate looking

- started talking a lot about MSFT, implying they were interested in htmx

- someone asked if MSFT was going to buy htmx: https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746656784088228204

- i then put up a post about changing the htmx license, implying i was going to restrict it due to MSFT interest: https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746736273728094323

- I then made is 0BSD instead of 2BSD: https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746880860723544211

- I then posted the "offer" i got from MSFT (some credit card thing) https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746895016256328079

- And explained how there were no lies involved in the ruse: https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746924827641102719

the reason i did all this is for the lols

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by stavros »

samsquire wrote: post #2

I use the zero clause licence for my all my work because it just removes all the overhead of using my code. I think (please correct my understanding) zero clause BSD can be embedded in a GPL project too, it just becomes one-way included, subsumed into the GPL project and then under the GPL licence. (Relicenced) Could the author of HTMX explain their reasoning for changing the licence? I am curious?

IANAL, but yep, that sounds about right, the more restrictive license then applies. Of course, anyone can use the original, BSD copy of the code, without the restrictions.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by saghm »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #3

background: - over the weekend I started making the @htmx_org twitter account increasingly corporate looking - started talking a lot about MSFT, implying they were interested in htmx - someone asked if MSFT was going to buy htmx: https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746656784088228204 - i then put up a post about changing the htmx license, implying i was going to restrict it due to MSFT interest: https://fxtwitter.…

> - I then posted the "offer" i got from MSFT (some credit card thing) https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746895016256328079

Know your worth; don't sell out for anything under 20% cash back at Bed, Bath & Beyond!

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by singron »

This made me wonder what the shortest open source license is, and it seems to be the Fair License: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fair_License

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>

> Usage of the works is permitted provided that this instrument is retained with the works, so that any entity that uses the works is notified of this instrument.

>

> DISCLAIMER: THE WORKS ARE WITHOUT WARRANTY.

EDIT: I would not use this license. I'm not sure how this got approved by the OSI, but I'm not a lawyer. Some of the email threads think the disclaimer is insufficient, and I'm not entirely sure that it confers all the expected rights since it only says "Usage" (copying, modification, distribution).

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by samsquire »

stavros wrote: post #4
samsquire wrote: post #2

I use the zero clause licence for my all my work because it just removes all the overhead of using my code. I think (please correct my understanding) zero clause BSD can be embedded in a GPL project too, it just becomes one-way included, subsumed into the GPL project and then under the GPL licence. (Relicenced) Could the author of HTMX explain their reasoning for changing the licence? I am curious?

IANAL, but yep, that sounds about right, the more restrictive license then applies. Of course, anyone can use the original, BSD copy of the code, without the restrictions.

I would have hope that anybody who uses your code doesn't want to keep it a secret, because it would be good if people use the same common base code and changes can benefit everyone.

Since there's no requirement to credit a zero clause licenced BSD code, someone who receives the BSD code compiled might not know it's included but that's the risk I'm taking.

Re: Htmx changes license to Zero-Clause BSD

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Post by kamikaz1k »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #3

background: - over the weekend I started making the @htmx_org twitter account increasingly corporate looking - started talking a lot about MSFT, implying they were interested in htmx - someone asked if MSFT was going to buy htmx: https://fxtwitter.com/htmx_org/status/1746656784088228204 - i then put up a post about changing the htmx license, implying i was going to restrict it due to MSFT interest: https://fxtwitter.…

what does the fx in fxtwitter.com mean?
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