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Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

Adrig wrote: post #57
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #43

Can anyone share artistic projects that have used generative AI? Where it is used as a tool, and not as a goal. ie something that’s not: - Poster/illustration where stock photo would have been used beforehand - NSFW - Experiments trying to display model quality (like on /r SD) The closest I’ve found so far was Rock paper scissors (found from HN) [0], but it’s unclear if it was really less work than usual CGI/animatio…

One of the best projects I saw was made during the “early” days of generative AI (2022) and the strange output fits perfectly the story. Summer Island by Steve Coulson [1] is a short comic book made by an art director who can't draw well. He used the AI to its strengths. [1] https://ianetica.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/09/Summer-Islan...

Thank you! This was exactly the kind of project I was interested in.

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Post by KolmogorovComp »

cdcox wrote: post #78
KolmogorovComp wrote: post #43

Can anyone share artistic projects that have used generative AI? Where it is used as a tool, and not as a goal. ie something that’s not: - Poster/illustration where stock photo would have been used beforehand - NSFW - Experiments trying to display model quality (like on /r SD) The closest I’ve found so far was Rock paper scissors (found from HN) [0], but it’s unclear if it was really less work than usual CGI/animatio…

Linkin Park used it in 4 videos recently and seemed to use a combination of img2img and leaning into the glitchy style. [0] (These are 9-11 mo old so using much older models and techniques) Peter Gabriel used it extensively in some recent music videos. The artists behind it also leaned into the glitchy style but are probably using some pre trained stuff to keep style.[1] A writer/creative named Austin McConnell used…

Thank you! This was exactly the kind of project I was interested in.

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Post by gumballindie »

omnimus wrote: post #119
The_Colonel wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't know that much about how exactly the humans learn and how AIs learn. Both are still to a degree black boxes. But you're asserting that in case of AI training it's "stealing property", but imply it's not stealing for human learning. I think you need to substantiate this claim/difference. "Humans learn differently from AIs" is not enough.

This humans are just stochastic parrots is marketing/narrative current “AI” companies use to avoid legal and image issues. Seems like its working on some people.

I am surprised by the cognitive dissonance these people exhibit. On one hand they confidently claim that humans are stochastic parrots, on the other hand they claim they dont know how humans learn and think. They claim ai is intelligent but dont know how to define intelligence.

Right not with a high degree of confidence we can state that they are taking what’s not theirs, apply software to it, and resell it.

Everything else is their defence of said process, gaslighting people and spreading schizoid fear to obfuscate it.

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Post by Jcowell »

zen928 wrote: post #114
hmcq6 wrote: post #112

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What are your thoughts on Fountain by Duchamp? When you read a book do you jump to the final chapter, read it, and then shut the book? Because it sounds like that's how you view art.

Do you need to have the validation from others that your art exists for you to want to create it? If I read every book by only jumping to the final chapter, am I interpretating the work incorrectly or am I not interpretating it how you specifically look for it to be validated? I keep photographs of moments as memories, eventually I'll collage them together, maybe I'll do this a few times to develop a style that I enj…

> Do you need to have the validation from others that your art exists for you to want to create it?

I wouldn’t be surprised if a good chunk of art is meant to be consumed rather than created. but the only way to know that is to gather all artist and ask them.

There are some art that insincerity meant to be seen of course. Such as murals , street, Large wall Paintings and it would be silly to act as if they’re not meant to be

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Post by gfodor »

omnimus wrote: post #62
gfodor wrote: post #61

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See it’s weird since I would consider this a form of immortalization. Some artists are seeing this way, but very few. It seems crazy to me more artists aren’t being amazed that their entire style is now “canon”

See it’s weird when somebody is upset when corporation steals and uses their code I would consider this a form of immortalization. Some programmers are seeing this way, but very few. It seems crazy to me more programmers aren’t being amazed that their entire codebase is now “canon”

If I had a style of coding (whatever that means) and it got embedded into the models in a way that would cause it to echo for eternity long past my death, and was recognized as mine, I would consider it a successful work of art.

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by gfodor »

BadHumans wrote: post #73
gfodor wrote: post #61

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See it’s weird since I would consider this a form of immortalization. Some artists are seeing this way, but very few. It seems crazy to me more artists aren’t being amazed that their entire style is now “canon”

Being immortalized doesn't suddenly mean you stop paying bills

Sure, I’m just saying I’d have expected more artists to say “I know this will harm me financially but as an artist it is the most transcendent kind of success I could have imagined.”

Eg Grimes sees it this way, anyone else? It’s very surprising to me this isn’t a dialectic within the global community of artists. It points to me as a sign that perhaps art has become so intertwined with commercial and financial interests the latent mental models artists have of art have shifted over time, broadly speaking, away from art for art’s sake or art to speak.

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Post by bjorglo »

WA wrote: post #41
imhoguy wrote: post #18

Dunno, I feel sad about artists a bit. I hope they won't stop creating. I am sick of these flashy AI fakes.

Imagine you are an artist and have a specific style and one day you wake up and the computer program that ripped off your style gets credit for that particular style, as in "4000 midjourney artistic styles". Horrible.

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Post by jmilldotdev »

KolmogorovComp wrote: post #120
jmilldotdev wrote: post #64

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https://www.bcad.one/project/7 we produced a connection card game in a couple of months end-to-end using AI. text is a true mixture of our ideas and GPT's 'ideas'. we gave GPT the vibe we wanted, let it generate tons of new stuff, then we heavily curated and remixed it. art is created and curated by various AI tools. it does not rely on any particular artist's style. we bootstrapped the game using our own money, and…

Not to diminish your visuals, but this is typically a non-artistic case of generative AI, where it was only used to cut costs, not by choice.

Not necessarily. Both of us (the creators) enjoy using AI in our free time to make images and creating and curating aesthetically pleasing images.

It was not used purely to cut costs.

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Post by hmcq6 »

zen928 wrote: post #114
hmcq6 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are your thoughts on Fountain by Duchamp? When you read a book do you jump to the final chapter, read it, and then shut the book? Because it sounds like that's how you view art.

Do you need to have the validation from others that your art exists for you to want to create it? If I read every book by only jumping to the final chapter, am I interpretating the work incorrectly or am I not interpretating it how you specifically look for it to be validated? I keep photographs of moments as memories, eventually I'll collage them together, maybe I'll do this a few times to develop a style that I enj…

If you didn't read the whole book you didn't experience the work in full.

You're allowed to read it however you like. No one is saying you're not. But, given those circumstances, is your interpretation of the art valid? At that point why even read the last chapter? Just make up your opinion based on the cover, you'll get through books much faster since that is your only goal.

But understanding an art piece frequently (usually?) doesn't end with that individual piece of art anyways. If Duchamp presented Fountain in 2024 would it have the same appeal? Could Fountain have been produced in 1200? Does the fact that Fountain started as a mass produced item fundamentally effect it's statement?

Your final sentence is just a completely unfounded ad hominem? No reason to attack me bud. I haven't told you how I view art (except for "in full") and I certainly didn't say anything like "art without meaning to others being less financially valuable is an attack on all creative work"

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Post by The_Colonel »

hmcq6 wrote: post #112
The_Colonel wrote: post #107

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Then please educate me: 1) for their own creative fulfillment. Generative AI makes no difference. 2) for enjoyment / appreciation from other people. Generative AI makes little difference here since the average person's art is likely to be mediocre with or without generative AI 3) as a way to earn their living. Here generative AI will make a difference in some art professions, but that doesn't seem to be the implied s…

What are your thoughts on Fountain by Duchamp? When you read a book do you jump to the final chapter, read it, and then shut the book? Because it sounds like that's how you view art.

> What are your thoughts on Fountain by Duchamp?

I don't think your comment really fits this thread, which is about why artists are creating art.

But if anything, it strengthens the point. The art in the Fountain is not reproducible by generative AI, its existence therefore makes no difference.

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