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Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by UncleMeat »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #41
rvz wrote: post #16

Engineers affected. The coasting day care is over and Google is in code red wartime mode in a state of panic. Sorry. The market is brutal and it does not care. No one is safe, not even Google.

Are you saying that "BigHead" kind of devs are doomed? And why does Google keep laying off people? You would think that they would do the relevant calculations and fire everyone they need to keep the costs down. The multiple rounds speaks of incompetency at Google. Given their unssuccessful attempts at besting OpenAi, it is not surprising. But still it is kind of scary to see how Google has become the old Microsoft a…

Hard to say if BigHead style devs are being affected here. Annual review ratings aren't quite yet finalized, so it is hard to know whether they could be used as input to a layoff system.

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by favabeanzzz »

bossyTeacher wrote: post #39

I wonder what does this mean for the "Everyone can code" movement (bootcamps, initiatives within Google and the like, government funding). They keep saying that you can get a high paying job if you do a 9 month course. When the best of the field are getting laid off, I wonder how long will the "Everyone can code" movement survive

Erm, who says the folks being laid off are the "best of the field?"

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Post by rakoo »

gandalfgreybeer wrote: post #54
lennannard wrote: post #29

let me know if yall want to come work at Microsoft. reach out to me about it https://www.linkedin.com/in/leepenkman/

Hey guys, this is a pretty decent gesture no matter what you think of Microsoft after mass layoffs. No need to be snarky.

How is this a decent gesture ? Any employer with visibility and cash flow wants to hire engineers. Do you think employers are doing workers a favor and being so nice and humane when they go out of their way and give us poor peons a chance at a job ?

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by 2devnull »

discordance wrote: post #59
garymiklos wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not all corporates use Microsoft

That's true. Only 95% of enterprise companies use Azure [0] and only 83% of Fortune 500 use Office 365. 0: https://www.extremetech.com/deals/307468-microsoft-azure-is-... 1: https://zipdo.co/statistics/microsoft-office/

The 17% who don’t use outlook email all their data to the 83% who do use outlook on a daily basis. MSFT has it all.

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by gfdsgdfgfd »

ilrwbwrkhv wrote: post #17

As I have been saying for a while Google, Amazon, Facebook, all these companies are on the decline. We have allowed them to become so big that they don't fall fast but it's very apparent that they would have been disrupted if they were normal sized like companies were in the past.

> We have allowed them to become so big

You have?

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by newshackr »

screye wrote: post #46
joak wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft was once on the decline and it's now bouncing back. Having billions and captive markets (by network effect) seems to help.

Microsoft did decline. Windows, office MSFT mobile and Xbox have either stagnated at the top or declined. Now, stagnation at a few dozen billions in revenue is still good. But very much legacy company stuff. Microsoft built a whole another company called Azure. Smartly acquired 2 other companies called LinkedIn and Github. Then invested early in the biggest phenomenon of the post covid world - Openai. Google ended th…

GCP has had growth, like Azure

Re: Tell HN: Google-Wide Layoffs

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Post by gfdsgdfgfd »

photon_collider wrote: post #62

Surprised to see another cycle of layovers happening here. What’s going on in the industry?

> Surprised to see another cycle of layovers happening here. What’s going on in the industry?

Nature is healing itself. The boom cycle is over. Correction is in the process.

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Post by rchaud »

screye wrote: post #46
joak wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Microsoft was once on the decline and it's now bouncing back. Having billions and captive markets (by network effect) seems to help.

Microsoft did decline. Windows, office MSFT mobile and Xbox have either stagnated at the top or declined. Now, stagnation at a few dozen billions in revenue is still good. But very much legacy company stuff. Microsoft built a whole another company called Azure. Smartly acquired 2 other companies called LinkedIn and Github. Then invested early in the biggest phenomenon of the post covid world - Openai. Google ended th…

Office has stagnated? It's the first thing orgs require third-party apps to integrate SSO for.

Office 365 + Sharepoint is a major, major business.

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