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How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Post by paxys »

gumballindie wrote: post #50

The AI wave is proof that with the right marketing strategy you can convince masses of idiots that any lie is truth. The lie here being that chatgpt is intelligent and it produces useful complex output. Reddit is full of downvoted ai garbage. Experts in any field will tell you it produces nonsense. Yet these drones keep thinking it’s accurate.

I had bought into the hype initially, but over the last few months the more I use ChatGPT for real work the more I realize that it is mostly coming from people who aren't actually using it themselves. They are instead hyping the idea of it that exists in their head.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Post by intvocoder »

somat wrote: post #65
userbinator wrote: post #44

AI has created a dichotomy --- those who are below-average in their skills will see it as an improvement, while those who are above average will see it as regression.

This could be said about any new tool. "photoshop has created a dichotomy --- those who are below-average in their skills will see it as an improvement, while those who are above average will see it as regression." "the automobile... "the camera... "the printing press... signed: someone who really does not like these LLM's. Not for what they can do, but for the doubt they bring to the table. This is probably the same…

No, it couldn’t. The tools to which you compare require a different or complementary set of skills to use, and the user must understand the output or mode of operation that the tool conveys.

Prompt engineering (within the context of ChatGPT) is more useful for jailbreaking than using it for its intended purpose, aside from which, the complaint of the OP from the linked post is that their coworkers do not understand the output, if they did, they would not rely on ChatGPT as a smokescreen.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Post by Izkata »

JamesBarney wrote: post #52

I hate that the top voted answer is tattle to the boss. The poster and artists are both adults, and it is tagged communication. It seems like the first step should just be ignoring it or communicating the issue to them. Something like setup a meeting to go through a couple of examples of the flaws in extreme detail, that the solutions many times lack the context to come up with a great answer, you appreciate they're…

According to the question they're already doing that and it's not working.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Post by est31 »

intvocoder wrote: post #72
somat wrote: post #65

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This could be said about any new tool. "photoshop has created a dichotomy --- those who are below-average in their skills will see it as an improvement, while those who are above average will see it as regression." "the automobile... "the camera... "the printing press... signed: someone who really does not like these LLM's. Not for what they can do, but for the doubt they bring to the table. This is probably the same…

No, it couldn’t. The tools to which you compare require a different or complementary set of skills to use, and the user must understand the output or mode of operation that the tool conveys. Prompt engineering (within the context of ChatGPT) is more useful for jailbreaking than using it for its intended purpose, aside from which, the complaint of the OP from the linked post is that their coworkers do not understand t…

What about googling then? I often google how to do X while writing code or developing because I don't remember the exact CLI flags and reading the manpage takes more time than asking google. I'm not a big LLM user yet but I imagine a lot of people have replaced googling with ChatGPT in their workflow.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Post by rsanek »

userbinator wrote: post #61
sebcat wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming AI is at the level of average

It naturally assumes the average of its training data.

I'm not sure this is necessarily the case, especially considering techniques like RLHF that can improve a model's performance.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Post by ChainOfFools »

syndicatedjelly wrote: post #40

Absolutely fascinating read. I am really curious about his artist-colleagues who find ChatGPT to be a boon to their work. That does not strike me as intuitive.

Can't speak for him, but I would guess that the answer is most working artists pay the rent churning out a stream of unfulfilling, uncreative, derivative works (so they can buy themselves time to do actual artist things) requested by the sort of customer who has no idea what their real motivations are for requesting an artist who can create, when what they actually want, is a craftsman who can make.

Most buyers of "creative work" are perfectly happy to pay a premium for something that looks remarkably like something -else- that impressed them, even though this is orthogonal to the purpose of working with an artist.

I don't blame (actual) creative artists for dumping this craftwork drudgery onto AI, but it's hard to say what long-term consequences of tapping an ever-dwindling reserve of unexploited prior creative art will be.

Maybe the world will end up like one of these ancient cultures whose creative inventory crystallized a century or two into their development and remained the same for the next 500 years until they collapsed.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Post by ashu1461 »

samtho wrote: post #63
sebcat wrote: post #55

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Assuming AI is at the level of average

AI has created a new standard from which “average” is defined. Rather than a real life analog to a mathematic mean, it’s simply understood to be the level at which AI performs.

It is a tool, those who learn to use the tool will benefit more. average people will be average in using it, smart people have the potential to use it smartly.

Re: How to get coworkers to stop giving me ChatGPT-generated suggestions?

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Post by verve_rat »

throwaway888abc wrote: post #2

You can create counterpoint arguments with ChatGPT... Sh t in / Sh t out. Everybody happy. Years back during big outsourcing project, this never ending conversation (between human teams) were big part of it.

You can type shit here. It's ok, we all know what you meant anyway.
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