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Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

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Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#31
If you're truly concerned about your data integrity build a TrueCrypt volume within the Goog Drive / Dropbox.

Despite what the TOS says on either end there are always going to be breaches, court orders, or potentially even employees with the power to access your files.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#32

Complete FUD. Best article I've read on this is from The Verge. Google would be unable to create backups or thumbnails for example without these rights. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms...

You may be right, but that doesn't prevent them from using those same rights for other purposes (much like TSA searches being used to find drugs rather than terrorism).

If Google really means it, and wants it to be clear, they could put it right into the TOS: "Google may do X, when it does so in order to provide feature Y".

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#33

Complete FUD. Best article I've read on this is from The Verge. Google would be unable to create backups or thumbnails for example without these rights. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms...

You may be right, but that doesn't prevent them from using those same rights for other purposes (much like TSA searches being used to find drugs rather than terrorism). If Google really means it, and wants it to be clear, they could put it right into the TOS: "Google may do X, when it does so in order to provide feature Y".

Doesn't this part of the TOS say exactly that?:

"The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones."

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right, but that doesn't prevent them from using those same rights for other purposes (much like TSA searches being used to find drugs rather than terrorism). If Google really means it, and wants it to be clear, they could put it right into the TOS: "Google may do X, when it does so in order to provide feature Y".

Doesn't this part of the TOS say exactly that?: "The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones."

There's only one word I have issues with in the entire TOS, and that's "promoting". Basically they can do the same annoying thing Facebook does when they use your face to recommend pages to other people. Google could potentially use your stuff to build ads for Drive.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#35

Complete FUD. Best article I've read on this is from The Verge. Google would be unable to create backups or thumbnails for example without these rights. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms...

Holy cow -- Apple says they may delete any iCloud content that they find "objectionable"? And that they have a right to scan your content to determine such?

Jaw drop

I store at the pleasure of the King.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#36

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may be right, but that doesn't prevent them from using those same rights for other purposes (much like TSA searches being used to find drugs rather than terrorism). If Google really means it, and wants it to be clear, they could put it right into the TOS: "Google may do X, when it does so in order to provide feature Y".

Doesn't this part of the TOS say exactly that?: "The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones."

"Develop new ones" is quite a broad clause !

eg. Rounding up non-gingers to be put in cages above pools of lava would be allowed

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#37

Complete FUD. Best article I've read on this is from The Verge. Google would be unable to create backups or thumbnails for example without these rights. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms...

Problem is: the rights as worded by Google allow a whole lot more than the reasonable-use wording by Dropbox. Remember that recent flap about iOS apps uploading users' entire Contacts list for non-relevant uses? hey, users gave permission for the apps to access that data without explicit limits; same idea, same concerns.

No. If they are to enable you to share a document you need to give them license to do so. If they are to create copies of the files across datacenters and employ OCR on images and use that to improve their algorithms, they need to inlucde that in their terms of service to avoid getting sued.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#38
post #34

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Doesn't this part of the TOS say exactly that?: "The rights you grant in this license are for the limited purpose of operating, promoting, and improving our Services, and to develop new ones."

There's only one word I have issues with in the entire TOS, and that's "promoting". Basically they can do the same annoying thing Facebook does when they use your face to recommend pages to other people. Google could potentially use your stuff to build ads for Drive.

I can't think of any possible workable scheme for implementing that, that makes any kind of sense in any universe real or imagined.

"Store your spreadsheets! Just like Joe Blow's 2012 sales forecast! (link to preview)"

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#39

Complete FUD. Best article I've read on this is from The Verge. Google would be unable to create backups or thumbnails for example without these rights. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms...

To me, Google's terms imply an intention to use my data for certain things that I don't want them to, like promoting the service.

Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service

#40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"if you use Gmail" Yes, Gmail has the same issue. Google can use your data "to develop new services" for it's own benefit.

> Google can use your data "to develop new services" for it's own benefit. Which sounds nasty, until you realize they potentially need such language to be able to do something as simple as implementing a better spam filter, or offline syncing for your e-mail.

That doesn't however explain why they need such language for drive.

Furthermore, Google could, like dropbox, limit their use of your data to providing or improving the services they provide you. Spam filtering and syncing resonably fall in that category.

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