The exact same language is in the Google terms of service, so if you use Gmail, your emails are covered by the same language.
Clearly, this is lawyer boilerplate being taken out of context.
Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service
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#22Earlier quoted context omitted.
Sounds a little tin-foil hat to me. Care you justify your hyperbole?
https://www.google.com/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&#... (PUN intended on using Google to show you some of many complaints towards their policies...)
Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service
#23"Some of our Services allow you to submit content. You retain ownership of any intellectual property rights that you hold in that content. In short, what belongs to you stays yours. When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptati…
Its the derivative works that I am worried about. But in context it may just be "thumbnails" or other things for searching content.
It's "developing new services" which essentially opens the door for Google to do anything they want.
Dropbox has to justify anything it does with your work in terms of providing a service to you. Google can justify doing things with your data solely for it's own benefit.
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#24That's standard wording allowing them to provide the content to you on any device you access the services from over the internet (i.e. publicly). http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&source=hp&q=%22a+w...
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Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service
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#26The exact same language is in the Google terms of service, so if you use Gmail, your emails are covered by the same language. Clearly, this is lawyer boilerplate being taken out of context. http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
"if you use Gmail"
Yes, Gmail has the same issue. Google can use your data "to develop new services" for it's own benefit.
Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service
#27I do agree that Dropbox's wording is much friendlier, but I attribute most of the difference to Google having big plans (e.g., searching and sharing) and being careful that their terms will permit them. I suspect a big part of this is Google's intention to analyze your data to make it indexed/searchable (e.g., their 'search for Mt. Everest and get back your pictures of it' features).
Really, the difference seems to be almost exclusively wording. Both licenses grant very broad powers to the service to redistribute (Google is guilty only of enumerating them more fully, where Dropbox simply claims "all the permissions we need"). Both providers include language that they will only do this in order "to provide the service", but neither enumerates exactly what that means.
Does anyone see anything specific that Dropbox can't do that Google can? That grant looks really broad to me, just ... friendlier.
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#29The exact same language is in the Google terms of service, so if you use Gmail, your emails are covered by the same language. Clearly, this is lawyer boilerplate being taken out of context. http://www.google.com/intl/en/policies/terms/
"if you use Gmail" Yes, Gmail has the same issue. Google can use your data "to develop new services" for it's own benefit.
> Google can use your data "to develop new services" for it's own benefit.
Which sounds nasty, until you realize they potentially need such language to be able to do something as simple as implementing a better spam filter, or offline syncing for your e-mail.
Re: Google Drive vs. Dropbox Terms of Service
#30Complete FUD. Best article I've read on this is from The Verge. Google would be unable to create backups or thumbnails for example without these rights. http://www.theverge.com/2012/4/25/2973849/google-drive-terms...
Problem is: the rights as worded by Google allow a whole lot more than the reasonable-use wording by Dropbox. Remember that recent flap about iOS apps uploading users' entire Contacts list for non-relevant uses? hey, users gave permission for the apps to access that data without explicit limits; same idea, same concerns.