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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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I have been at a clients location with my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop today. The "IT guy" there and all the other (non IT) office staff asked me what this is and how they could get it. I had to do a full 15 minutes of explanations about Ubuntu. You cannot imagine the looks after I told them it is free.

Did you give them the whole "4 freedoms" talk? Seems surprising that the IT guy didn't know about it though, can't be many people in the IT world (even dyed in the wool Windows guys) that haven't heard of Ubuntu.

The IT guy has last looked at Ubuntu a couple years ago, he was surprised how far it had come. He is working a Windows domain at the job.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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post #86

I have been at a clients location with my Ubuntu 12.04 laptop today. The "IT guy" there and all the other (non IT) office staff asked me what this is and how they could get it. I had to do a full 15 minutes of explanations about Ubuntu. You cannot imagine the looks after I told them it is free.

Maybe the IT guy recognizes the name Linux, but not Ubuntu?

The IT guy has last looked at Ubuntu a couple years ago, he was surprised how far it had come. He is working a Windows domain at the job.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. See bug 812394 for details. If you want to re-enable it, please follow this recipe. As someone who runs Ubuntu on a laptop with a dead battery, that's somewhat unfortunate. > The mail client Evolution may delete folders and their contents as they are renamed or moved around…

>> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. I'd guess from the phrasing that suspend-to-disk can still be enabled, it just isn't by default.

Yes, it can be, and the next bit says as much. I've pasted in the rest of the bullet point to clarify. I was just disappointed that such a thing has to be enabled manually now.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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I'm really hoping 12.04 is good. I upgraded to 11.04 on my laptop some time ago and detested it. Went back to 10.04 after that. I'm curious about that new search bar thing they're supposed to be implementing.

And isn't Shuttleworth coming out with a tablet Ubuntu? I thought that was going to be this release, but i dont see it mentioned ...

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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I totally understand. It's frickin' 2012 and I can't stand the fact that we can't do that. We want to sell via as many channels as possible, including Amazon. This is a tiny first step towards making a new computer company. Just need some love from hackers. Btw, we will offer free shipping :-)

You could try signing up as an Amazon merchant/seller.

We are signed up. However, Amazon takes a significant cut and we want to keep our prices low.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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What ard0r said about TwinView. I'm anxiously awaiting TripletView from Nvidia... ard0r, if you were to recommend an ATI card which had three display ports, what would it be? And, as a guy who has used nvidia with Linux for the past, oh, 14 years or so, can you tell me why you seem reluctant to recommend an ATI (AMD)? Am I inviting trouble by purchasing one?

The proprietary drivers have worked OK for me, but I've had issues with playing video. I just couldn't get smooth framerates. The radeon driver was worse in that aspect. I swapped in two nvidia cards and video looked much better. It should be fine for general use and I'm still trying to make the ATI setup work. I don't need 3D, just video. I have a 5870 eyefinity 6 that has 6 display ports, but those are no longer ma…

Thanks....I may try an AMD. I don't need 3D support either, but I do need compositing support (does no 3D mean no compositing? Not sure...).

Not having compositing on the linux desktop these days means you're a second class season. Both Unity and Gnome3 require it to function...if you don't have it, you have to fall back to Unity2D (incomplete user experience) or Gnome 2 (no longer supported. KDE actually does the best of the bunch when it comes to Xinerama so far, but I really prefer Unity or Gnome3.

I've read that if you buy two similar Nvidia cards (same GPUs), you can get compositing across three monitors, but I've not spoken with anyone who can verify. If anyone reading this can, please provide your vid card model.

Do you know if this Radeon HD 6450 will support compositing across three monitors? $60 is cheap to me to get this.

Thanks!

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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It has really come a long way, you may try it now. I was also in the league of people couldn't stand for Unity when it launched, but now I'm using it for couple of weeks now, its been very pleasant.

There are two kinds of people who hated Unity when it first came out. The first kind of people were mostly unhappy about Unity's bugginess and lack of functionality. These folks should be OK by now. The second kind of people just don't like the UI paradigm that Unity represents. Nothing they can ever do will make them happy with Unity. After all, that's why Ubuntu has alternative DEs! I use Xubuntu on my netbook and…

I tried Unity in VMware, but I think that's Unity 2D. It was too buggy to deal with (as of 2 weeks ago). Gnome 3 works better in VMware for me.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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These are beautiful. Have you made more?

Thanks. My flickr account is http://www.flickr.com/photos/phil-jackson/ but the more recent photos are of my son so you might want to page a couple of times.

You ought to consider making a set or collection for wallpaper-able images. Some of these are great.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Yup, this thread is interesting. An Ubuntu release, and I haven't read many complaints about Unity thus far down the page. They lost me to Mint in their last couple of releases.

It's possible that you've just explained it: The people for who it became such a problem have already migrated away. I don't have any numbers for that, but even if it's a small shift, then it could be that most people weren't too fussed anyway.

We as humans and programmers are creatures of habit, Unity by being a relatively new technology will break some habits in our work ritual. Give it a few years and nobody will complain about this.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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If replying to a comment with "Upvoted" is unproductive, what's more productive about saying "Downvoted"?

I don't always down vote, but when I do I prefer to leave a comment. I've probably down voted someone less than 20 times on HN, but when I do I like to leave a comment as to why. Its been the case where I've been down voted and wondered why. His comment isn't a troll comment and looking at his past comments he seems to be reasonable, intelligent, and otherwise a productive member of HN. I wanted him to know why I dow…

And meanwhile you leave a meaningful comment and get downvoted anyways. WTH, people?

If this were Reddit, I'd be attaching the Jackie Chan face right about here.

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