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Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by bratsche »

andyl wrote: post #21
rufugee wrote: post #14

I'm one of those weird folk who run three monitors, and even though 12.04 promised better 2+ monitor support through Unity 2D, I still find it lacking. Perhaps it's the way I have it configured, but I use two nvidia cards with xinerama, which means I'm forced to use Unity 2D (no compositing support). Unity 2D just isn't as stable or usable. I really, really hope they put more effort to fixing this in 12.10.

Have you tried Gnome? I also use 2 monitors, and hope that Gnome on 12.04 supports multi-monitors well.

I haven't tried it with 12.04 yet, but I've had poor experience getting Gnome installed and running decently in the last couple versions of Ubuntu. It seems like Fedora is the easiest way to use it.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by ard0r »

cryptolect wrote: post #40
rufugee wrote: post #14

I'm one of those weird folk who run three monitors, and even though 12.04 promised better 2+ monitor support through Unity 2D, I still find it lacking. Perhaps it's the way I have it configured, but I use two nvidia cards with xinerama, which means I'm forced to use Unity 2D (no compositing support). Unity 2D just isn't as stable or usable. I really, really hope they put more effort to fixing this in 12.10.

I've recently ordered 3x 21.5" monitors for developing with. It'll be interesting to see how Precise / Unity handles that setup. I have either Nvidia Optimus on my T420s Thinkpad or ATI 5970s to test with.

I've got that setup with a 5970 eyefinity 6 card. The monitors are in portrait mode so it's like one big 3240x1920 surface.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by jiggy2011 »

portmanteaufu wrote: post #109

Is there a reason that Canonical doesn't make upgrading via torrent more front-and-center? It seems like on huge release days like today they'd want the swarm to lend itself a hand.

I guess probably to simplify things, the less links to "get" the product the better, especially if they are going after less savvy users who may also believe that bittorrent is illegal or shady in some way.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by kijin »

Random_Person wrote: post #98
kijin wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are two kinds of people who hated Unity when it first came out. The first kind of people were mostly unhappy about Unity's bugginess and lack of functionality. These folks should be OK by now. The second kind of people just don't like the UI paradigm that Unity represents. Nothing they can ever do will make them happy with Unity. After all, that's why Ubuntu has alternative DEs! I use Xubuntu on my netbook and…

I switched to Xubuntu as well when Unity hit for all of my machines. I think I'm going to give Unity a shot this time on at least one of my laptops and see what happens. It has occurred to me that most things I want to use require GDK anyways, so XFCE isn't all that light weight any more.

You're right, XFCE isn't all that "lightweight" when you add in all the things you need to make it usable.

XFCE still feels faster than GNOME or KDE on old hardware, probably because it doesn't use any semi-transparent 3D gimmicks. It is also shaping up to be a very good option for those who prefer the old GNOME look. The panel and most other UI elements are even more configurable than I remember GNOME 2 to have been. I'll be sticking with Xubuntu 12.04 for quite some time.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by rplnt »

bratsche wrote: post #108
levesque wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, poor Unity developpers. They wanted to make this configurable, but Gnome prevented them from doing it. Edit:

Gnome did no such thing. Unity is developed entirely by Canonical, they own full copyright on it and they employ all the developers for it. They can add any options they want, and they can omit any options they want. Gnome doesn't even factor into this.

Yeah, it's probably a choice. Both in Gnome and in Unity. Let's not confuse users by too many options and make our phone support as efficient as possible. Or something like that.

I might not like that but there are valid reasons to have dumbed down options. And if I'm not mistaken you can get some configurability out of 3rd party tools.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by jiggy2011 »

bratsche wrote: post #108
levesque wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, poor Unity developpers. They wanted to make this configurable, but Gnome prevented them from doing it. Edit:

Gnome did no such thing. Unity is developed entirely by Canonical, they own full copyright on it and they employ all the developers for it. They can add any options they want, and they can omit any options they want. Gnome doesn't even factor into this.

Is Unity proprietary software? If it was open source I'm surprised it has not been forked by now.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by mseebach »

jamesgeck0 wrote: post #104
alexmuller wrote: post #7

Desktop release notes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuD...

> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. See bug 812394 for details. If you want to re-enable it, please follow this recipe. As someone who runs Ubuntu on a laptop with a dead battery, that's somewhat unfortunate. > The mail client Evolution may delete folders and their contents as they are renamed or moved around…

>> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes.

I'd guess from the phrasing that suspend-to-disk can still be enabled, it just isn't by default.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by muyuu »

cryptolect wrote: post #67

Ok, I've just tried my 12.04 / Unity laptop with my 22" monitor. The thing is, I have my laptop on the left, and 22" on the right. So I want to set the Unity launcher to the right hand side of my main screen, the 22" display, so that it doesn't get in the way of scrolling to the laptop's screen. Sounds simple right? Switching the launcher from left to right? Wrong. http://askubuntu.com/questions/123552/unity-launcher…

This is why I went to Mint then back to Debian. Still, having to deal with terribly buggy ATI/AMD proprietary drivers, because I need openCL.

If you can avoid ATI you shall be fine in Debian land.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by Random_Person »

kijin wrote: post #114
Random_Person wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I switched to Xubuntu as well when Unity hit for all of my machines. I think I'm going to give Unity a shot this time on at least one of my laptops and see what happens. It has occurred to me that most things I want to use require GDK anyways, so XFCE isn't all that light weight any more.

You're right, XFCE isn't all that "lightweight" when you add in all the things you need to make it usable. XFCE still feels faster than GNOME or KDE on old hardware, probably because it doesn't use any semi-transparent 3D gimmicks. It is also shaping up to be a very good option for those who prefer the old GNOME look. The panel and most other UI elements are even more configurable than I remember GNOME 2 to have been…

I'm conflicted really. I am used to the old GNOME desktop, so XFCE just feels like home to me... I'll miss right-clicking my desktop for instance... but I feel that in order to better support customers going forward I need to get used to the UI's that they will be using.

I do very little Linux support currently, but there are talks of deploying Linux in our schools very soon and I can't see them using anything other than Ubuntu. It will do me well to have familiarity with the product. I'm upgrading my desktop to Xubuntu 12.04 now, but I think I'm going to switch my secondary laptop to Ubuntu and start getting used to it.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Post by beagle3 »

I have an exopc slate that I'm trying to use with Linux, and have had no luck for the last year.

12.04 doesn't make it better - https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/utouch/+bug/801988 has all the details (for the W500, but it's the same bug). Touching the screen with two fingers causes X to blow up. Touching with one finger at the wrong place causes X selection to lock-up for a few minutes. I'm almost tempted to go to Windows 7... I hope it gets fixed soon.

Meego 1.2 is able to use the touchscreen without multitouch (but is otherwise unusable as a distribution).

Does anyone have good experience with any ubuntu distribution on an eGalax / DWAV capacitive multitouch screen?

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