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The teen mental illness epidemic is international (2023)

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Post by thaumasiotes »

muragekibicho wrote: post #325
drewjaja wrote: post #317

Our society is teaching us to seek money, power, intelligence, beauty, bodily satisfaction, all of which will never satisfy us. “If you worship money and things — if they are where you tap real meaning in life — then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It’s the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die…

True. I'm not religious but when people stop worshipping the invisible sky daddy they turn to worshipping OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate.

> they turn to worshipping OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and

Are these supposed to be two different categories?

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Post by throwaway98797 »

lapcat wrote: post #297
elzbardico wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While it may be taboo to say so, I believe this is a strong factor. Most changes in life have tradeoffs, winners and losers. Divorce may be great for the general happiness of the adults involved, but despite all boomer rationalizations in the line "I can raise happy kids if I am not absolutely happy", it generally sucks for kids.

> While it may be taboo to say so What does that even mean? You just said it, and it's also been said by countless people ever since the aforementioned 60s. It's not taboo, it's trite.

it’s taboo because they are advocating a limitation of rights for one party to benefit another others

the us isn’t a collective society but an individualistic one

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Post by meiraleal »

elzbardico wrote: post #166
meiraleal wrote: post #88

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No, what you are saying is factually wrong. Now if you are lying or just wrong would depend on how much of your income depends on it. The culprit is manipulated mass media, the current version of it is social media so before mark Zuckerberg the culprit was television owners, not whatever excuse you are trying to find to not blame media.

Social sciences and psychology are not physics or math. Your extreme confidence in your preferred explanation is not warranted by the current record of social and psychological sciences. You may well be right, I concede that I also believe that mass media is at least part of the explanation, but I don't think we should act so certain and refuse the debate. The current state of psychology and social sciences don't war…

> Social sciences and psychology are not physics or math. Your extreme confidence in your preferred explanation is not warranted by the current record of social and psychological sciences.

My preferred explanation (and the post preferred explanation) is the one with most evidence available. Yours is a very strange theory that got ranked above all the discussion about the negative influence of social media and the responsibility of the owners and workers. We are past the time to think that this is coincidence.

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Post by maipen »

muragekibicho wrote: post #325
drewjaja wrote: post #317

Our society is teaching us to seek money, power, intelligence, beauty, bodily satisfaction, all of which will never satisfy us. “If you worship money and things — if they are where you tap real meaning in life — then you will never have enough. Never feel you have enough. It’s the truth. Worship your own body and beauty and sexual allure and you will always feel ugly, and when time and age start showing, you will die…

True. I'm not religious but when people stop worshipping the invisible sky daddy they turn to worshipping OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate.

People were already struggling before any of those people became popular.

The population always did this through the ages.

Social media came and came in fast. Today's society is still figuring out it's effects on people and what they can do about it.

Andrew Tate has been preaching the young folks to work hard, which in fact, is something they need to hear because they are extremely lazy (I agree from personal experience in dealing with young men).

Onlyfans, on the otherhand, is probably one of the most dangerous things on social media right now, since it's glorifying and promoting e-prostitution while hiding in the lie of it not being so.

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Post by Jensson »

williamcotton wrote: post #327
vkou wrote: post #83

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What about the public influence campaigns that are ran openly on television? How well have we managed to quantify the effect that has on the public? They also take place without any oversight.

But that doesn’t happen at a global level. The medium is the message!

Advertisements is a global phenomena. Advertisements are often made to make you depressed about your situation, so the more effective they are the more depressed people get.

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Post by bmikaili »

maipen wrote: post #334
muragekibicho wrote: post #325

Earlier quoted context omitted.

True. I'm not religious but when people stop worshipping the invisible sky daddy they turn to worshipping OnlyFans models, Amouranth-style twitch streamers and toxic masculinity gurus like Andrew Tate.

People were already struggling before any of those people became popular. The population always did this through the ages. Social media came and came in fast. Today's society is still figuring out it's effects on people and what they can do about it. Andrew Tate has been preaching the young folks to work hard, which in fact, is something they need to hear because they are extremely lazy (I agree from personal experie…

Not sure why you needed to praise the sexual predator and pimp in your reply

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Post by lazyasciiart »

brohoolio wrote: post #186
woooooo wrote: post #77

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The medium is the message.

For folks who don’t know, this is a great read and explores how we are connected and communicate is more important than what is communicated. Highly highly recommend. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Medium_Is_the_Massage The slightly alternative title is a play on words that was originally an error.

I have to say that I was very interested in the ideas but found the book barely readable.

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Post by cfrog »

I would have liked to have seen the increase in terms of percent of total population; I was surprised this wasn't shared automatically to provide context. Showing the base numbers as totals or percentage of totals always provides a clearer picture. 2 to 4 percent is a 100% increase, and of interest across large populations, but it's much less dramatic when phrased as an increase from 2 to 4%. Likewise, if population A has a 150% increase and population B only shows 25%, it can look like A is in crisis compared to B. But if Pop A is going from 5% to 7.5% of total and Pop B is going from 18% to 22.5%....the critical issues look a little different. In addition, I was surprised suicide mortaltity rates were not included alongside the admittance for self harm numbers.

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Post by arkey »

mglz wrote: post #322
DeathArrow wrote: post #194

Most of the West lost its traditional values. If there are no values to build upon, if you have no reference, if everything and everyone is the same, if right and wrong, good and evil are confused, if you have no compass, then it's very easy to get lost and become mentally ill.

What are those values precisely?

I'd say marriage and family just to begin with.

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Post by arkey »

carl_sandland wrote: post #298
bongodongobob wrote: post #237

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This is satire right?

partly ;) I do seriously wonder if our brains are just overloaded, the rest was various conspiracies I come across (what gave it away, the communists?)

I do believe our brains are overloaded.

After removing "woke" and "communist" as specific agents, would you still really mean all that as just a joke? You don't think there's at least a bit of it that's pretty close to the truth?

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