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Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#311

This is never going to work for me because I don’t want to talk to my computer. When I’m in public my voice is noise pollution at best and is telling everyone around me what I’m doing at worst. Call me weird but I don’t want everyone around me essentially hearing every thought I’m looking up in real time. Feels creepy.

I guess you didn't watch the keynote, he showed that when you shake the device a keyboard pops up.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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The keynote is near science fiction, but the actual implementation is leaving me badly confused.

- Did it really scan the whole table to add a new column? As in, OCR? What would happen if I had more than one screenful of data, and who in their right mind would trust the OCR'ed output?

- How can it access the Discord account for the "teach mode"? Is it stealing your (sensitive and expiring!) cookies to reproduce the actions on their cloud? Or worse yet, running instructions from the AI on your local machine?

- It shows structured results from Spotify and Uber on the r1's screen. Does it have custom integration with all those apps? What happens when the API changes (Twitter), or they don't support an app I need (local taxi), or the app is averse to third-party integration (WhatsApp), or I need an "advanced" feature (payment methods on Uber)?

- Why in the VC hell are they basing their revenue on a one-time sale of a clearly unnecessary electronic gadget (my phone already has all that!), when their biggest variable costs will be recurring cloud expenses?

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#314

What's the advantage of this vs a smartphone? Realistically, are you going to carry two gadgets with you? I feel like a lot of people don't like the smartphone, because, being a general purpose computer, it takes away the excuse to buy all sorts of different gadgets.

Follow up question: why does this need dedicated hardware? What does a dedicated $200 device do that the same app running on a smartphone can’t?

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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post #160

I have no idea whatsoever about what this device is doing but I'm pretty sure it should have been just a mobile app

Kind of a hilarious take if you watch the keynote where significant time and a moving backdrop are devoted to highlighting the miasma of navigating across 100 apps on a smartphone. Decrying "just install another app" is a big part of the raison d'etre for the whole product!

Yeah but I'd rather have an extra app than having to carry around two devices

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#317

This is never going to work for me because I don’t want to talk to my computer. When I’m in public my voice is noise pollution at best and is telling everyone around me what I’m doing at worst. Call me weird but I don’t want everyone around me essentially hearing every thought I’m looking up in real time. Feels creepy.

I guess you didn't watch the keynote, he showed that when you shake the device a keyboard pops up.

I skimmed the keynote. Lol

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#318
post #160

I have no idea whatsoever about what this device is doing but I'm pretty sure it should have been just a mobile app

Kind of a hilarious take if you watch the keynote where significant time and a moving backdrop are devoted to highlighting the miasma of navigating across 100 apps on a smartphone. Decrying "just install another app" is a big part of the raison d'etre for the whole product!

yeah sure but also maybe the keynote presenter is completely deluded

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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post #287

I feel like the R1 is getting a lot of weird hate here on HN. I get it, it's a bit pretentious and wants to be very Apple-like, yadda yadda. Probably not that much value generation, it's overpriced, and no one wants to carry another thing in their pocket. And yes, the company will likely go bankrupt (or pivot into something less exciting). It's also all in the cloud (no local inference) so it doesn't really even "do"…

> if I wanted to do a simple find-and-replace on my 2021 M1, I'd have to use something like grep (a tool originally written by Ken Thompson in 1973—a half century before my laptop was built) and look up flags and syntax I inevitably constantly forget. We should have been past this at least 15 years ago.

Pretty much any text editor worth its salt has find and replace, regex compatible, features. Even the extremely rudimentary TextEdit on your MacBook supports it.

The fact that foundational tools like grep still work over half a century later is a feature, not a bug, of our field.

How many cloud based services (most if not all of which rely on those foundational half-a-century-old building blocks, by the way) that are pushed to customers today will still be around in half a century?

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