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Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#251

I wish they put it next to something, I have difficulty understanding the size of it. People in this thread are talking about it like it’s tiny, but I got the impression from the pictures that it was gameboy size.

their keynote shows a person using the device, which is about the size of their palm. the screen is about 3/4 width of the actual device.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#252
The hardware device itself is a bit of a red herring. It's really a server-side LLM that is trained to use software on your behalf, presumably against server-side Android/Chrome VMs that you authenticate to various apps/services with OAuth.

At first it seems a bit like a kludge, but I don't really see any other way to create the dream sci-fi robot assistant. It has to be able to do things as you, and it would be impossible to manually integrate with every website or service.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#253
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Has any startup succeeded by starting out offering shiny hardware running innovative new software, all of which they have to develop? It seems like a fatal dilution of focus to have to worry about the design and logistics of a fancy dumb terminal widget when you also have to get the software/AI/app integration stuff right. Just make an app with text and voice interaction. Accept that the thing in our pockets with a s…

I don't think there has been a single successful hardware startup in the last decade, so the answer to your question is safely "no" without even going into specifics. Which is sad, because I'm sure there's room for a lot more innovative devices in the world outside of a single glass rectangle in your pocket that everyone must plug into in some way. The economics of the industry just makes it very hard for them to sur…

Analogue ( https://www.analogue.co/ ) comes to mind..

Genki Things is another...

I'm sure there are others?

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#254
I'm not sure people want an LLM assistant that can actually do things like spend their money.

A minor convenience when it works well. A major inconvenience when it doesn't. (And it doesn't take a lot of imagination to come up with nightmare scenarios.)

Love the gadget, though. I feel like I want to eat it or build a Lego castle around it, or just look at it more.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#255

Has any startup succeeded by starting out offering shiny hardware running innovative new software, all of which they have to develop? It seems like a fatal dilution of focus to have to worry about the design and logistics of a fancy dumb terminal widget when you also have to get the software/AI/app integration stuff right. Just make an app with text and voice interaction. Accept that the thing in our pockets with a s…

I guess the Pebble watch is the last thing that comes to mind from a new entrant. The original ipod? lol.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#256
post #249

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I agree that it's really dumb, especially in public.

I respect your feeling/position on this, but I don't understand it... What feels "dumb" about it? Is the perception of others towards you when you do this? Because that ship has sailed, people Vlog on the sidewalk and do TikTok videos in the subway, and Facetime their mom or brother at the grocery store or in the mall and have long video conversations with each other out loud.. I'm not saying this to be dismissive. A…

> people Vlog on the sidewalk and do TikTok videos in the subway

Not without me giving them the "Have you escaped from an institution" look they don't. And you judge yourself as you judge others. If I were to say "Add eggs to shopping list" on the bus, I'd instantly feel the stares of a dozen people as I look on my phone in shame (That's whether or not I'm alone on the bus). And my shame is justified too.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#257

I wish they put it next to something, I have difficulty understanding the size of it. People in this thread are talking about it like it’s tiny, but I got the impression from the pictures that it was gameboy size.

Look into the keynote. Gameboy-sized is about right.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#258
post #110

It's a neat idea but I'm not sure what the audience is. "It's simpler", but you still need to manage a bunch of integrations from a computer? It can't seem to make phone calls? I just want something that I can give my 93 year old grandfather so he can order a ride and get reminders about his prescriptions. Rabbit seems like a device that misses an audience that actually needs a simpler smartphone.

My elderly parents were my idea too, and the fact that I can manage the integration from my computer is actually a plus here. It's not like you have to do it all the time. It has to be able to make phone calls and text on WhatsApp/Signal too, though.

the screen looks like it may be too small for people who have vision problems - no idea if one can adjust the text size used. But the device does "say" the text, so if the user has decent hearing, they could rely on the audio versus reading the text.

Now if multiple in the same area were using this device, it may get chaotic/confusing, but no moreso than multiple people having loud voice conversations in one place.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#259
post #161

Not sure why they felt they needed their own hardware for this. They could have built it for multiple platforms to get more traction / usage.

TE is known for hardware design. To be honest, nobody cares about another app promising to improve some aspect of your life.

> To be honest, nobody cares about another app promising to improve some aspect of your life

thisssss... many of the comments are wondering why this thing is a hardware device instead of an app and i think this is the answer

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

#260
What's the advantage of this vs a smartphone? Realistically, are you going to carry two gadgets with you? I feel like a lot of people don't like the smartphone, because, being a general purpose computer, it takes away the excuse to buy all sorts of different gadgets.
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