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Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by plasticbugs »

It's a striking condemnation of the current state of things that my $1K+ mobile phone does not do anything close to what's in this demo. I would pay $200 just to have a voice assistant that isn't totally incapable of playing songs requested like "Play SONG_TITLE from ALBUM_TITLE".

As an example, yesterday my daughter asked for a song from Snow White.

EDITED FOR CORRECTNESS (originally I said I asked for Heigh Ho from Cinderella)

In the car I say, "Hey Siri, play Heigh Ho from the Snow White Soundtrack". Siri: "Sure, here's Snow (Hey Oh) by Red Hot Chili Peppers" (try it yourself!)

Why are Alexa and Siri still so useless, inaccurate and inconsistent? Why can't I yet ask Siri to "book me a ride via Uber from location X to location Y" or "reorder the same thing I got last Tuesday from Uber Eats"? I assume it's down to compute costs, but I would absolutely pay an additional subscription fee for more intelligence behind these voice assistants.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by caseyohara »

thih9 wrote: post #152

Note that this is not a Teenage Engineering product. This is a product sold by Rabbit - and they hired TE to help as a design agency.

Thank you, this is an important detail. Teenage Engineering isn't mentioned anywhere on the linked page, so I was confused about the HN title. I figured Rabbit was a new venture by TE.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by herval »

plasticbugs wrote: post #201

It's a striking condemnation of the current state of things that my $1K+ mobile phone does not do anything close to what's in this demo. I would pay $200 just to have a voice assistant that isn't totally incapable of playing songs requested like "Play SONG_TITLE from ALBUM_TITLE". As an example, yesterday my daughter asked for a song from Snow White. EDITED FOR CORRECTNESS (originally I said I asked for Heigh Ho from…

To be fair, all of that seems quite easily done with an app - your phone should be more than capable of running those models.

I’d imagine something like siri or alexa isn’t evolving as fast since the server side cost at their scale would be astronomical..

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by dilap »

yieldcrv wrote: post #113
dilap wrote: post #79

Earlier quoted context omitted.

to me the pitch is compelling. i don't want to use any more fucking apps -- i want to talk to my computer, like i talk to chatgpt. there's real opportunity for a revolution here. i don't think apple or google are well-positioned to build this revolution, because they are too conservative and too bought-in on the old interaction model. (if jobs were still around, different story. alas.)

I think Apple would, all their devices always have the neutral engine chip, they just need to extend more RAM to it to support larger models they already have a habit of replicating the most useful apps natively i don’t see why not here replace siri once and for all, while running a local llm server for apps to tie into instead of an api to chatgpt

i'd love to be surprised, but i just don't think apple has the necessary software chops/vision anymore to pull it off.

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by dabluecaboose »

plasticbugs wrote: post #201

It's a striking condemnation of the current state of things that my $1K+ mobile phone does not do anything close to what's in this demo. I would pay $200 just to have a voice assistant that isn't totally incapable of playing songs requested like "Play SONG_TITLE from ALBUM_TITLE". As an example, yesterday my daughter asked for a song from Snow White. EDITED FOR CORRECTNESS (originally I said I asked for Heigh Ho from…

>I say, "Hey Siri, play Heigh Ho from the Cinderella Soundtrack".

It probably doesn't help that "Heigh Ho" is from Snow White

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSj2h34ZrmY

Re: Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone

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Post by leephillips »

I watched the first 2:51 or so of the keynote. The guy made a series of assertions that he seemed to think were self-evident. I disagreed with every one, without exception. I gave up when he described the LLM as “artificial intelligence”. I don’t think I’ll be a customer.
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