How do companies like this get funding? Do they get it before even having a prototype?
I assume by selling products to customers.
Rabbit: LLM-First Mobile Phone
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#152Note that this is not a Teenage Engineering product.
This is a product sold by Rabbit - and they hired TE to help as a design agency.
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#153Teenage Engineering's hardware design is so cool. I'm a fan of their aesthetics. Their color choices are great too.
They're almost an interactive art project that somehow got enough of an audience to sell their artwork en masse. I'm very glad they exist, but I'm always a bit flummoxed by what they make and manage to sell.
I don't know about their other gear, but they sold a lot of OP-1s.
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#154As usual with Teenage Engineering, I love the hardware design, but this aspect of the software is a letdown: > rabbit OS operates apps on our secured cloud, so you don’t have to. Log into the apps you’d like rabbit to use on your system through the rabbit hole to relay control. You only need to do this once per app. So things don't run on the device, but on the cloud. Unfortunate.
"operates apps so you don't have to" -> "to use, use a different PC, open the browser app and log into spotify"
so... you also still have to have another PC and operate apps on it.
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#155Can it make calls?
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#156Earlier quoted context omitted.
The device is $200 and appears to be smaller than a phone so yeah, it does not run AI locally. I assume Siri doesn't run locally on Apple Watch or AirPods either.
Not that it refutes your general point, but the latest Apple watch runs (at least some) Siri requests locally on the device.
My understanding is that in recent versions of iOS (and iPadOS) Siri runs a decent percentage of requests locally as well.
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#158The biggest take away from this is the LAM-over-email which was hidden away in one of the demos. This has a lot more potential (esp. in a business context) in my opinion than the phone itself.
Being able to directly email an autonomous agent or even CC one later into a conversation with instructions can be a game-changer. Not only would the replies be faster but the result could be cheaper compared to a human equivalent.
One use case which comes to mind is, which was also demo'd, is making trip arrangements. In the demo, the spoken request to book a trip to London was long and precise; no way I would get that right the first time on any push-to-talk device. At my company, we use a travel agent for business trips which we email and they book everything and send over receipts and tickets. I could just as well be emailing a LLM/LAM.
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#159I wish they put it next to something, I have difficulty understanding the size of it. People in this thread are talking about it like it’s tiny, but I got the impression from the pictures that it was gameboy size.
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#160I have no idea whatsoever about what this device is doing but I'm pretty sure it should have been just a mobile app
Kind of a hilarious take if you watch the keynote where significant time and a moving backdrop are devoted to highlighting the miasma of navigating across 100 apps on a smartphone. Decrying "just install another app" is a big part of the raison d'etre for the whole product!