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Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Has anyone seen a negative review from someone that has had a chance to try it a few times? All of the reviews I have seen have been pretty phenomenal. That is one of the reasons that I am looking to give it a try. If the UI and screen quality is so fantastic, it will be a great virtual screen for productivity and entertainment.

The weight of it will probably be an issue for long sessions.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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post #114

Biggest question for me is how it feels on my face. If it makes airplane travel more fun for cross country flights, that alone is worth the cost to me.

I hadn't thought about airplane travel before. The idea of "escaping" the inside of a plane for a few hours on a long flight sounds very appealing. I feel the slightest turbulences could lead to instant nausea (or worse) though.

They have an airplane/“Travel” mode which supposedly mitigates this.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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post #143

Has anyone seen a negative review from someone that has had a chance to try it a few times? All of the reviews I have seen have been pretty phenomenal. That is one of the reasons that I am looking to give it a try. If the UI and screen quality is so fantastic, it will be a great virtual screen for productivity and entertainment.

The most prominent critical feedback has been the weight. I would like to know what straps the users used. Also if the double strap one is better for weight

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple has been trading down the last six months. Their iPhone sales in china keep dropping. You can’t exist like that in the current MBA driven stock market. https://www.cnbc.com/amp/2024/01/08/apple-iphone-sales-in-ch...

> You can’t exist like that in the current MBA driven stock market. Their supply chains and customers will evaporate? Or you mean they can't access the market for cash at valuations that make sense? Depending how they operate, only one of those is existential. Any number of firms that the markets soured on simply bought themselves back private and carried on existing.

I mean in their mindset, if you’re not growing you’re dying.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/forbeslacouncil/2018/03/23/in-b...

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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post #117

I want this to be successful, but even as an iOS / macOS dev, I haven't seen enough really strong differentiation in Apple's dev offering so far that would make it so that someone would absolutely want to use VR for a non-gaming app compared to an app on iOS. There's some pretty great innovations there like how Spaces and gestures work, but they're more incremental improvements rather than anything that would really…

I’ve tried some work related VR goggles when our GIS department started using some for their drones. Maybe I’m just an old man yelling on my lawn, but I really don’t think I’ll ever want to put a screen on my head for anything other than novelty “fun”. I know some people like it, but for me it’s just annoying, so I do wonder if I’m in the minority or the majority thinking like this. I think the idea of the “office le…

I think you're in the vast majority, because one of the precedents for VR headsets is COVID masking, and people didn't like that physical experience even if they needed the sense of safety. I also think the videochat fizzle post-COVID is a negative indicator.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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post #141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It is not fair to compare the Quest devices, given what we know about the Vision Pro so far. The AR functionality on current-gen gaming headsets is terrible, and the screen door effect is glaringly obvious. What Apple is advertising blows the Oculus devices away. Whether the difference is worth the extra $3000 is a question that has yet to be answered, but it’s a category error to compare them directly.

Every functionality that i see in these videos already exists in Q3, but presumably in lower resolution. Is hardware going to be the differentiator that makes it so much more useful? It's also theoretical atm

Apple's device isn't tethered, so it's usefulness isn't constrained to a few feet from your computer.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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post #19

I do hope this is successful. The cult-like behavior that Apple inspires may be the big push needed to help VR become adopted by the general public. If it fails, then I'd be pessimistic that VR will have meaningful progression in the next decade.

> The cult-like behavior that Apple inspires may be the big push needed to help VR become adopted by the general public. It's just not going to happen. The general public are not going to put this stuff on their face for anything other than short periods of time (if at all) and only for entertainment purposes (if they do at all). You're not going to see general public families sitting on a couch watching a movie toge…

I kind of agree with you, but to play devil's advocate, AirPods basically reset the baseline perspective around bluetooth headsets. Before AirPods, bluetooth headsets were definitely not cool, and mostly just utilitarian. I mostly associated them with either business-y people in suits, or people exercising like running.

I think if there is a company that could really kick of mainstream VR/AR headset adoption, Apple probably has the best brand to do it.

That being said I have a Quest 2 with a couple years of accumulated dust in a closet, so who knows.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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I was an early adopter with the original PlayStation VR. The screen door effect was an issue but the biggest one is that I couldn’t last more than 30 minutes before getting nauseous. Granted I get seasick and likely susceptible more than most but I really hope Apple have solved it for people like me. Either way Im pre-ordering as well.

I don't get seasick at all, rough seas. If I try a roller coaster game, or even a game where you can walk forward VS teleport I'm close to vomiting. It's frustrating.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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post #82

When the Apple Lisa debuted in 1983 it cost $9,995 (equivalent to $29,400 in 2022). The Lisa wasn’t a success but the personal computer was - I think there are some parallels to draw here

except quest 2 costs $300 and Q3 costs $500. And they already exist

And in 1983, some retailers sold the Commodore 64 for as little as $199 (which would be $614 in today's dollars).

I don't think their point was to suggest there are no less expensive alternatives.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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post #73

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From the accidental tech podcast accidental leaks from Vision Labs (you have to listen between the lines) you’re going to want much much more resolution than the 15 Pro does. Wait for the 16 or further, I’d say.

Fair, though I'm also getting married in April. I've considered renting one for a single day, if that's even possible, because once moments past you can't really get them back. It's the same for people with kids, you can wait and just capture through all our existing great cameras, but if spatial video is eventually a thing you'll wish you had that from when they were a certain age, too. Even if you don't have the vi…

You should rent a professional stereoscopic camera for a day. That way the resolution will stand up for years.
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