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Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by Podgajski »

tibbydudeza wrote: post #51
FumblingBear wrote: post #4

I know a lot of people are rightfully concerned with the viability of this product, but I'm unbelievably excited! Definitely going to be pre-ordering one and picking it up on release day if I can! I'm sure it won't be perfect or anything, but I'm mostly just stoked about the possibilities I see with this thing.

Would be interested in long term use replacing a laptop - headaches - eyestrain etc ....

I’m going to say with the electromagnetic radiation blasting you in the forehead There’s going to be other problems.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by seydor »

cl42 wrote: post #41

Two features that are really clever from a product perspective: 1. Using the spatial cameras/features to scan your own face. I'm surprised Quest 3 doesn't do this... As soon as I saw the concept, I thought, "DUH! So smart it's obvious in hindsight!" 2. EyeSight, to enable people to still "see" your face when you wear the device. Very cool... As a Quest 3 user in mixed reality, I think I freak my family out when I wal…

what would be the use of face scanning? Also, sets of eye stickers already exist for the quest 3

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by ren_engineer »

orenlindsey wrote: post #7

This product is the first step to the real future of tech. Just like the iPhone took years to catch on (similarly to Vision Pro, the big problem was price), this product's successors will be the market leaders for all tech in 5 years (maybe longer, but I think 5 years is fair).

cell phones were a proven product by the time the iPhone came out, Apple just made a way better one. VR is still unproven beyond enthusiasts at this point, so it's a bigger risk of failure in my opinion

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by eks391 »

Hehohei wrote: post #54
eks391 wrote: post #40

Everything is 2D, making it just a TV/phone on your face. Although these other products were never released commercially, the google glasses and microsoft's hololens both envisioned adding 3D objects that interacted with your real space. In comparison, the Vision is very dull. I'm glad they are actually selling commercially though, so maybe we can soon see these features that AR allows, from them or competitors.

Why would everything be 2D? It has two displays, one per eye, it should be able to show real 3D even with a broken focus/unnatural focus

I'm not saying it is limited to 2D, rather that they missed out by using something that can render 3D to only render 2D objects. Everything they showed off was just apps with layers at the most. When they showed the recreation of the guy, I thought that would be 3D, but they still distilled him into a 2D box

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by mft_ »

fidotron wrote: post #6

It is amazing how the hype for this went off a cliff, especially as the LLM stuff went into orbit. There is a large contingent that understandably want a new iPhone type success, along with new App Store level opportunities, but like with the VR wave I suspect they will be disappointed by this one. The computing industry appears to have run out of obvious things to do with what it has developed.

As an industry (area) matures, each successive developmental innovation is usually successively smaller, more incremental, less game-changing. Since the iPhone, Apple has made a relative but smaller success of e.g. the iPad, AppleTV, AirPods, Watch, and AirTags. Several of these were not immediately successful (in Apple mega-corp terms, at least).

For the VR stuff, we have to expect they have a long term plan, incorporating compelling unique apps or content delivery, and later cheaper hardware models. I think we need to give them 3-5 years before we judge the success or failure of (let’s call it) their Vision franchise.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by WXLCKNO »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #58

I think the biggest innovation with this is Apple is giving their competitors the ability to start charging stupidly outrages prices for AR/VR. I'm not even being sarcastic. Just wait.

I imagine they could charge a bit less but it seems like this is just cutting edge everything crammed into one device.

I love the approach of starting at the top instead of the bottom.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by alphabettsy »

the_gastropod wrote: post #67
wombat-man wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's interesting to me is that it seems to fully get rid of the screen door effect, and could actually be useable for work with virtual huge screens. I didn't really get into VR games, and maybe I should take another crack at them with something cheaper from meta before investing in the Vision Pro. Anyway, there's no way my work will buy me one, and I'm not buying one with my own dollars just to lock it to my corp…

I don’t understand the huge screens thing. The Vision Pro has 4k resolution (if I remember correctly). Most decent monitors have the same. Isn’t this basically the same as moving your existing monitor closer to your head to make it a huge monitor?

Maybe a little. If the existing monitor could also use your entire visual field for workspace and easily be used anywhere.

I travel often and I’m looking forward to always having the ability to have a large high resolution display to work on. Also seems cool for entertainment. It’s returnable like anything else.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by FumblingBear »

andrepd wrote: post #53
FumblingBear wrote: post #4

I know a lot of people are rightfully concerned with the viability of this product, but I'm unbelievably excited! Definitely going to be pre-ordering one and picking it up on release day if I can! I'm sure it won't be perfect or anything, but I'm mostly just stoked about the possibilities I see with this thing.

You will pre-order a 3.5k device without even looking at what it is first? That's just inconceivable to me, maybe I'm just not rich enough?

Even when you pre-order, you try it on at the store to get fitted for the appropriate mask, and on top of that you have 2 weeks to return it for a full refund (if it's the same as other apple products—no reason to believe it won't be).

Additionally, I've spent the months since the announcement reading reviews and stuff from people who __have__ gotten their hands on the headset and they all seem to address any concerns I personally have.

Certainly not pushing anybody else to be impulsive for FOMO, but as an enthusiast, I'm pretty excited and am very fortunate to be able to afford something like this.

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by eddieweng »

satvikpendem wrote: post #89

The main issue I have with the Vision Pro is that Apple learned with the iPad what to do and what not to do when it comes to their customers, chiefly to have an app store that you could not install software outside of. Had the Mac been invented today, it surely would follow the same model, and the Vision Pro is very likely to be following such a model. If I can't use it to have my own applications, whatever they migh…

Shameless plug: I've built a web app which allows you to stream PC games/software to Vision Pro using webRTC without any restriction. https://windowsvisionpro.com

Re: Apple Vision Pro available in the U.S. on February 2

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Post by __m »

HumblyTossed wrote: post #58

I think the biggest innovation with this is Apple is giving their competitors the ability to start charging stupidly outrages prices for AR/VR. I'm not even being sarcastic. Just wait.

The HoloLens 2 starts at 3800€ (still) and the Vision Pro is a leap forward.
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