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True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by TheNewsIsHere »

kefka_p wrote: post #85
toothrot wrote: post #30

It seems like people in this thread are unaware of the very real threats, harassment, and assaults that happen as a trans person in public. Using a name that matches your gender identity is important for both psychological safety, as well as avoiding being outed and threatened by others in public. Laws in different states can make changing your legal name incredibly complicated and time consuming. Having an easy proc…

Seems like many are just feigning lack of awareness, imo. Casual observation shows a pattern of looking the other way when bad things are happening to people they don’t like.

I also think there’s some amount of intellectualization about these issues, for varying reasons. In my own social group the most common one I observe is that it’s an academic exercise to those who aren’t part of an affected group. I don’t say that from a place of judgement, it makes perfect sense that in those cases a lack of lived experience would make it academic. For others it’s reality, and that’s why it’s important to address these kinds of issues.

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by xdennis »

threeseed wrote: post #115
xdennis wrote: post #71

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You're being disingenuous. This is the quote: > It harms everyone when we redefine safety He is saying it harms everyone when being called by the name you don't want is redefined as unsafe because it makes it difficult to differentiate between significant issues.

> It harms everyone when we redefine safety How is allowing someone to use a different name harmful to everyone ?

So childish.

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by criddell »

namdnay wrote: post #79
uxp8u61q wrote: post #55

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Step 1. Go to google news or whatever news aggregation website you want. Step 2. Search for "transgender attack". Step 3. Take some time to digest the horrible news you're reading. Step 4. Try to figure out the common thread between these stories. The people in question usually get outed in public during some kind of ID check, and got jumped by some intolerant moron who witnessed it. This is happening. Today. Includi…

in that case it's an argument for getting the name change done properly right from the start, right? i don't think having a different name on your mastercard is a solution here (especially since choosing "mx" as a prefix is hardly keeping things secret..)

There’s nothing MasterCard can do to help you change your name. This is something they can do. Plus, it makes MasterCard more appealing to this market. I think it was a great move.

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by andix »

nephanth wrote: post #144
andix wrote: post #91

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Payments with the magnetic stripe is something that’s long gone in Europe. More than 20 years. Some devices may still support it (for US tourists), but I haven’t seen anyone using it for over a decade. I doubt that the number and the name can be read via EMC. Otherwise you could easily read strangers name in the subway by just holding your NFC Android phone close to their wallet. And HN would be full with such storie…

I actually have been to a gas station in france a few years ago (like in the late 2010s) whose terminal only accepted magnetic stripe. I was extremely surprised, i really thought they didn't exist anymore

Late 2010s sounds about right, the EU directive PSD2 became effective by September 2019, which banned most of those machines accepting payment without a PIN or magnetic stripe. There might have been some extended timelines in some member countries and also some providers that just didn't implement it in time (and might had to pay a fine).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Payment_Services_Directive#Rev...

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by ceejayoz »

camdenlock wrote: post #140
snotrockets wrote: post #128

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One of your sexes, perhaps: there isn't a single marker for sex (and some of those we like to think of such markers aren't binary, but we can drop those for this exercise)

“Markers” are irrelevant. Either your body is capable of producing male gametes or it’s capable of producing female ones.

That's just trivial to debunk. Infertile people may produce neither.

Less trivial: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/46,XX/46,XY

https://academic.oup.com/bjs/article-abstract/69/5/279/61857... "Ovulation in a cytogenetically proved phenotypically male fertile hermaphrodite"

Ovotesticular syndrome: https://rarediseases.org/rare-diseases/ovotesticular-disorde...

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by madeofpalk »

gruez wrote: post #109
madeofpalk wrote: post #42

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Who are you (or OP) to tell someone how they should or should not feel. If someone says they feel unsafe, maybe we should default to believing them rather than minimising them. A tiny bit of compassion and empathy goes a long way.

>If someone says they feel unsafe, maybe we should default to believing them rather than minimising them. A tiny bit of compassion and empathy goes a long way. Okay but surely you must agree that there are limits to how much we as a society should believe? Portraying yourself as being oppressed is an effective way to garner sympathy and resources from society, so people are incentivized to use language that makes the…

> but we can't take everyone's statements at face value either

In the context of this article, why not?

Why are we objecting to "the name on my credit card makes me feel uncomfortable and I wish I could change it"?

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by apapapa »

MissTake wrote: post #134
camdenlock wrote: post #112

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I’m trans and I don’t. Only weirdo leftists love that stuff. We’re not all like that, but… an uncomfortable percentage do seem to be pretty out there with their belief systems.

I’m a weirdo lefty trans gal. I hate that sorta thing. Please don’t label.

Anyone left or right are delusional in this current system

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

MissTake wrote: post #82
gruez wrote: post #5

>When Asher DiGiuseppe tried to make a purchase at his local Toronto liquor store, the clerk looked at him with suspicion and questioned his card, which was still printed with the name he had used before transitioning. >[...] New research by Mastercard across 16 countries in North America and Europe revealed that 59% of people who identity as nonbinary say they feel unsafe while shopping, and 57% say they think it’s…

Yes, it’s a serious issue. Eons ago when I first started to transition I was prevented from making a purchase once because my card didn’t match my female me. The clerk then seemingly took delight in increasing the volume of their voice when informing me. The irony being that at work one our cute “pretty plastic people” girls used the male bosses CC all the time. Should it matter? No, but until people evolve into huma…

> at work one our cute “pretty plastic people” girls

What does this mean?

Re: True Name – Mastercard (2022)

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Post by MissTake »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #158
MissTake wrote: post #82

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Yes, it’s a serious issue. Eons ago when I first started to transition I was prevented from making a purchase once because my card didn’t match my female me. The clerk then seemingly took delight in increasing the volume of their voice when informing me. The irony being that at work one our cute “pretty plastic people” girls used the male bosses CC all the time. Should it matter? No, but until people evolve into huma…

> at work one our cute “pretty plastic people” girls What does this mean?

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