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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by accrual » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 9:30 PM UTC

neilalexander wrote: post #197

frabjoused wrote: post #31

Nostalgia aside, this isn’t actually better. The animations alone would be enough to drop most users after an hour.

I wish UI designers understood this simple rule: only animate/add a transition if I would have been waiting for a different reason anyway. If there's a genuine delay before you can complete showing me something, then sure, animate away. If you can render what I want to see instantly, don't make me suffer through an animation for it.

Funny related observation - 3DMark2000 displays a little transition/animation during setup before it begins copying files. On a modern SSD, the animation takes longer to complete than the actual installation. I'm sure there are plenty of other examples in modern software.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by nuancebydefault » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 9:32 PM UTC

Almondsetat wrote: post #110

pjmlp wrote: post #101

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Ubuntu mostly, and I have plenty of experience with Linux distros since Slackware 2.0 in 1995, so no need for the typical answer that I am holding it wrong, once upon a time I jumped across distros on regular basis.

If you have hardware that has linux support then everything should work at install time or after install. Ubuntu also has a dedicated program to show you the available proprietary drivers you might want to use. Unless you your hardware is so new that it requires the very latest kernel then you should be golden.

The thing is, usually you just have hardware (a given) and want to (re) install an os on it that works. Each time i installed a Linux on a machine there were some issues like for example hibernate not working, my usb drive not working when connecting to a hub, the boot manager not showing, the laptop keyboard not working, etc.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by nuancebydefault » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 9:34 PM UTC

olddustytrail wrote: post #174

pjmlp wrote: post #115

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This is going the Slashdot way, thanks for bringing up some nostalgia back.

Yeah, by now we all know about your personal issues with Linus, we don't need to hear it on every single thread.

Linus or Linux?

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by eddythompson80 » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 9:37 PM UTC

sudohackthenews wrote: post #89

eddythompson80 wrote: post #34

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Assuming you don’t use Wayland of course.

I’m on Fedora 39 and nvidia drivers work great on Wayland (gnome)

Huh, I’ve had so many problems running Wayland KDE on Arch with nvidia drivers. Maybe I should give gnome another try

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by zakki » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 9:44 PM UTC

toastercat wrote: post #233

voidfunc wrote: post #149

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Why run Windows at that point? I'm a hybrid person. I run Linux for my work and dev OS and Windows for gaming and day to day shenanigans. If you're just going to strip Windows down to this weird broken minimal thing tho why not just use Linux full time and get a PS5/Xbox for the AAA games you can't run under Linux. I dont really get the point of the effort people go through trying to make Microsoft products something…

> why not just use Linux full time and get a PS5/Xbox for the AAA games you can't run under Linux A PC with Windows 10 LTSC beats PS5/Xbox in terms in game availability and backwards compatibility. It also unsurprisingly still beats Linux + Proton in terms of compability. It is still Windows after all. Console gaming is not comparable to PC gaming at this point. Using LTSC over regular W10 affords you a more stable s…

So do you know how to buy W10 LTSC license? Should it via MS Partners? Can we buy it directly from MS?

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by LtWorf » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 10:00 PM UTC

mstokholm wrote: post #28

plandis wrote: post #16

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Good quality Nvidia drivers and support for games, mostly.

This is mostly a non-issue now - I'm playing Baldur's Gate 3, Dota 2, Warcraft III and everything else on Ubuntu 22.04 now thanks to Steam and Proton. Performance is awesome.

Meanwhile valve's own games like portal 2 and team fortress 2 no longer work on linux. Inspires confidence -_-'

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by apapapa » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 10:00 PM UTC

Windows 2000 was windows XP without all the candy interface... Best version ever.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by deafpolygon » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 10:04 PM UTC

exabrial wrote: post #127

I don't understand why people like XP so much. Windows 2000 was the ultimate OS: lean, fast, focused, and absolutely zero crapware installed. No stupid internet accounts needed to run your local OS and it did what it was supposed to do.

I ran win2k for gaming for years, even while winxp came out.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by Dork1234 » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 10:06 PM UTC

rkagerer wrote: post #248

dijit wrote: post #40

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With the risk of linking to 4chan; there is a /g/ guide to how to navigate Windows and it recommends exactly this.[0] However: I do not publicly endorse software piracy, and so do not recommend using this guide; legitimate LTSC licenses are only possible to come by for Businesses with a minimum spend of 5 licenses.[1] :( [0]: https://boards.4chan.org/g/thread/98121318 [1]: https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/…

My god how I would happily pay 5X per copy for a Windows that had all the shitty new garbage culled out (like ALL the Telemetry and forced updates).

It is $200-300 per license times 5x. It it worth $1000-$1500 for it?

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by k8svet » Sun, Jan 07, 2024, 10:06 PM UTC

bluedays wrote: post #153

louthy wrote: post #55

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> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

Whenever I read stuff like this it always sounds made up. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve installed Linux and I’ve literally never had these issues.

> still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup

It reads like the prototypical "I tried Linux a decade ago and keep repeating the experience as if it represents reality today". Hell, 10 years ago was when I met my ex and I can't remember any time during that period that I actually "struggled" with anything other than Nvidia+Wayland before I stopped giving Nvidia money.

"finding drivers"? really? For what? I can't remember the last time I've even heard of anyone mentioning compiling a module manually. Running random scripts from the Internet haphazardly trying to "fix" stuff? Yeah, okay, I'm getting a mental image.

I can't name the last thing or feature that required any amount of fiddling to get working in Linux. Premium webcams, audio equipment, Chromebooks, Lenovos, ASUS gaming laptops, brand new laptops, 3 USB-C hubs, complicated docked, multi-monitor scenarios. It all has just worked out of box with Linux and NixOS, and requires less maintenance and hand holding than my single Windows dual-boot install.