> New research by Mastercard across 16 countries in North America and Europe revealed that 59% of people who identity as nonbinary say they feel unsafe while shopping We should do what we can to make life easier for everyone, but we should stop encouraging and accommodating this “everything makes me feel unsafe” attitude. It harms everyone when we redefine safety to include awkwardness or very minor psychological dis…
Let me guess: you or a loved one has never been in the same position as the trans people this press release is talking about.
You should read more carefully. GP wrote "minor psychological discomfort". They're definitely trying to downplay the danger that transgender people sometimes get put in.
Not parent, but I agree with the general point. Leaving this specific example aside which is a real world interaction, we (America) have gone to far to redefine what "safety" is. Ben Shapiro speaking at your school is not "putting you in danger".
Some people may act on Ben Shapiro's ideas, and that would put other people in danger.
For readers of this site, I think it should serve as a reminder, that when designing systems, that people's name as it appears on official government documents may not be their name, and we should take care to have the systems we build recognize that.
>Interesting, is this some US thing? Because in Europe for VISA/Mastercard payments I'm quite sure the name of the card owner is never transmitted to the vendor I was surprised too but apparently it's a field that exists on the magstripe itself. Presumably something similar exists on EMV (for chip/contactless) as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_card#Track_1
Payments with the magnetic stripe is something that’s long gone in Europe. More than 20 years. Some devices may still support it (for US tourists), but I haven’t seen anyone using it for over a decade. I doubt that the number and the name can be read via EMC. Otherwise you could easily read strangers name in the subway by just holding your NFC Android phone close to their wallet. And HN would be full with such storie…
I actually have been to a gas station in france a few years ago (like in the late 2010s) whose terminal only accepted magnetic stripe. I was extremely surprised, i really thought they didn't exist anymore
I've been called by my name many times by store clerks after paying contactless, without having given my name, so I assume it does get surfaced to them on the billing UI. It's also fairly common (in my experience, here in southern California) for the name on the card to be automatically used as the name on your order for, e.g., calling out when it's ready to be picked up at the counter.
Interesting, is this some US thing? Because in Europe for VISA/Mastercard payments I'm quite sure the name of the card owner is never transmitted to the vendor. Not in the past, and not now. It would also be quite in conflict with data protection laws. Also it's a risk for stolen credit card information. I think the vendor doesn't even get the credit card number when processing a payment, otherwise shop clerks could…
There's also the weird us custom of restaurant employees just making away with your card to go pass it on the terminal. They could see your name then
Yes. Some of us like to imagine trans* people as those drag like personas, a clownish caricatures of their genders. This isn't the case though: most are just, you know, people. You wouldn't know they are trans*, except for their name. And unlike that Johnny Cash song, being a boy named Sue doesn't build character. It just makes your life miserable.
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Interesting, is this some US thing? Because in Europe for VISA/Mastercard payments I'm quite sure the name of the card owner is never transmitted to the vendor. Not in the past, and not now. It would also be quite in conflict with data protection laws. Also it's a risk for stolen credit card information. I think the vendor doesn't even get the credit card number when processing a payment, otherwise shop clerks could…
>Interesting, is this some US thing? Because in Europe for VISA/Mastercard payments I'm quite sure the name of the card owner is never transmitted to the vendor I was surprised too but apparently it's a field that exists on the magstripe itself. Presumably something similar exists on EMV (for chip/contactless) as well. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_card#Track_1
Ah, memories of a "cool trick" we did in the late '80s: overwrite your name on the magstripe, so when you go to an ATM with your friends, you can show them that the machine greeted you with "HELLO MASTER!". Oh, the joys of unencrypted info in pure ASCII...
>When Asher DiGiuseppe tried to make a purchase at his local Toronto liquor store, the clerk looked at him with suspicion and questioned his card, which was still printed with the name he had used before transitioning. >[...] New research by Mastercard across 16 countries in North America and Europe revealed that 59% of people who identity as nonbinary say they feel unsafe while shopping, and 57% say they think it’s…
Yes, it’s a serious issue. Eons ago when I first started to transition I was prevented from making a purchase once because my card didn’t match my female me. The clerk then seemingly took delight in increasing the volume of their voice when informing me. The irony being that at work one our cute “pretty plastic people” girls used the male bosses CC all the time. Should it matter? No, but until people evolve into huma…
A legal name change is quite a chore, not a minor discomfort.
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The vast majority of people who are trans do not have surgery and being trans has nothing to do with your genitals. I feel like this really shouldn't need to be explained in 2024.