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Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by ponorin »

louthy wrote: post #55
tiffanyh wrote: post #19

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> "all the advantages listed about Windows XP are also present in Linux" You mean, are present in Linux TODAY . Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. Windows XP marked the begin of an era when corporations replaced analog processes with digital. It sounds so foreign now, but in the late 90s - it was still common for corporations to send printe…

> Installing Linux 22-years ago, when XP shipped, was hugely painful and only the most technical would attempt it. That’s still the case with Linux now. I did two recent Linux installs (different distros) and it’s still a nightmare of finding drivers, scripts, etc. to get everything setup. On one of my devices it still doesn’t recognise all the USB ports attached to the motherboard (but does recognise some), I just g…

I've tried installing Windows 10 to my old ("old" as in Ryzen 2000 series) HP laptop so that I can give it out, and it took forever to install all the updates. Windows Update sucks even when you give permission to do whatever it wants; super slow, doesn't know what to prioritise, and unable to just jump to the newest release. And even then it missed some drivers, especially the fingerprint sensor, so to this day Windows Hello still doesn't work. Remember this device originally shipped with Windows.

I can install Fedora Linux on my Surface Go with my eyes closed, barely touching the keyboard. Everything that is supported works out of the box and it doesn't take a day and a half.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by pjmlp »

Almondsetat wrote: post #110
pjmlp wrote: post #101

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Ubuntu mostly, and I have plenty of experience with Linux distros since Slackware 2.0 in 1995, so no need for the typical answer that I am holding it wrong, once upon a time I jumped across distros on regular basis.

If you have hardware that has linux support then everything should work at install time or after install. Ubuntu also has a dedicated program to show you the available proprietary drivers you might want to use. Unless you your hardware is so new that it requires the very latest kernel then you should be golden.

Thanks for the typical Linux forum reply, not even mentioning that I have Linux experience since 1995 was enough to avoid it.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by recursive »

Almondsetat wrote: post #90
plandis wrote: post #16

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Good quality Nvidia drivers and support for games, mostly.

Why are people so obsessed with gaming? It's unbelievable how this industry has gotten so many people hooked, to the point of accepting kernel level monitoring

I don't think this necessarily represents obsession. It just means they care about gaming at least as much "kernel level monitoring". As a baseline, I don't think there are many people who care much about that. I'm not sure what it is.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by Almondsetat »

pjmlp wrote: post #112
Almondsetat wrote: post #110

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you have hardware that has linux support then everything should work at install time or after install. Ubuntu also has a dedicated program to show you the available proprietary drivers you might want to use. Unless you your hardware is so new that it requires the very latest kernel then you should be golden.

Thanks for the typical Linux forum reply, not even mentioning that I have Linux experience since 1995 was enough to avoid it.

Avoiding providing details is what gets you the standard Linux forum reply. Generic complaints foster generic replies

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by pjmlp »

Almondsetat wrote: post #114
pjmlp wrote: post #112

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Thanks for the typical Linux forum reply, not even mentioning that I have Linux experience since 1995 was enough to avoid it.

Avoiding providing details is what gets you the standard Linux forum reply. Generic complaints foster generic replies

This is going the Slashdot way, thanks for bringing up some nostalgia back.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by hutzlibu »

dijit wrote: post #104
hutzlibu wrote: post #47

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So ... all the windows games now run on Linux? That would be news to me. And I was just recently messing with drivers, kernels etc to get a working result, but in the end I still could not play the (officially supported) game on Linux that I wanted (opposed to just works on windows), so good for you that your problems went away, but please note, that other people might have had other experiences.

Name a game and it probably works on linux these days. My favourite games all do, but I'm already using consoles exclusively for my gaming because I was unhappy being held prisoner.

Well, Total Warhammer 3 for example did not work for me through official Steam, even though it should. It runs on the same computer on windows without problems. And with much more tinkering I surely could get it to run on Linux as well .. but I want to play games to relax and not get and solve new problems.

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by louthy »

Macha wrote: post #105
louthy wrote: post #86

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That just isn’t important. The point is that the average non-techy person would be overwhelmed by the average Linux install. Regardless of distro. That’s Linux’s biggest cross to bear

They would also be overwhelmed by the average Windows install if they had to perform it themselves. However, these days you can get laptops with Linux preinstalled, even from mainstream OEMs like Dell or HP.

I dunno, installing Windows from scratch is still pretty slick. You don't normally end up having to do extra work to get basic things like Bluetooth working, or whatever.

Pre-installed Linux laptops is great - and is clearly the way to get someone less techy on-the-way. But, for most, if they're sick of Windows and they want to move (dual boot their machine) then god help them.

Linux is much better than it was, for sure, and I think the community is much better at answering questions than it was - it's less patronising than it used to be (like this guy [1]) - but I when I think of most people who I know who use Windows (non techy users), and whether I think they could survive in a Linux environment - I have to say no, still, which is a shame.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38903915

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by Almondsetat »

recursive wrote: post #113
Almondsetat wrote: post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why are people so obsessed with gaming? It's unbelievable how this industry has gotten so many people hooked, to the point of accepting kernel level monitoring

I don't think this necessarily represents obsession. It just means they care about gaming at least as much "kernel level monitoring". As a baseline, I don't think there are many people who care much about that. I'm not sure what it is.

Transpose this gaming obsession to other facets of life and see how it goes.

Imagine if most cars were modeled after Lamborghinis and people complained about the lack of turbo or carbon seats when hopping on your Honda Civic.

Imagine if most parks were modeled after football fields and people complained about the lack of goals and lines in your backyard.

Imagine if most knifes were modeled after big damascus blades and people complained about your table knifes when they come for dinner for not being cool and sharp enough

Re: Windows XP 2024 Edition is everything I want from a new OS

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Post by phmqk76 »

I really like this concept. I see a lot of negativity in the comments over the “Fisher Price” UI, but honestly, this seems much more familiar and easier to navigate than what Windows has become to the average user. This is something that I can see my parents or less technically-inclined siblings or friends breathing a sigh of relief to use. Simple, colorful, easy workflows. It’s why the iPad has a cult following among the 60 and over crowd.
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