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BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by moogly »

dmoy wrote: post #77
seanmcdirmid wrote: post #72

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> I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Musk is perfectly willing to play by the rules and norms of the Chinese market. They opened up a factory there and everything, they are even selling lots of cars in the PRC while exporting some outside. I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden; where unions are granted b…

> I’m not sure how BYD would fair in Norway/Sweden Pretty sure BWD is the top selling EV manufacturer in Sweden, I recall reading that before the Tesla union shenanigans happened. No idea about Norway

Luckily, all this information is publicly available and searchable, and you will find that it is Tesla.

https://www.car.info/en-se/stats?from=2023-02&to=2024-01&vd=...

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by starbase »

gambiting wrote: post #92
jandrese wrote: post #90

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It shreds your tires.

...why? Doesn't it do it by using 4 wheel steer?

nope. Rivian spins the left wheels forward and the right wheels backwards, or vice versa

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by sudosysgen »

adventured wrote: post #86
cowboyscott wrote: post #80

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> In 2009 the car sold in 96 units, and only seven cars were sold in the full 2010 fiscal year. Production has now ceased. In all, the car sold in only 103 units This is like saying we should ignore Tesla because the only car they sold in 2009 was a rip-off Lotus. Speaking as an American, I'd love to see what the presence of low-end (say, $10k range) autos would do to traffic laws and city planning.

> This is like saying we should ignore Tesla because the only car they sold in 2009 was a rip-off Lotus. No it's not like saying that. Lotus had a deal with Tesla. https://www.tesla.com/blog/lotus-position

BYD also had a deal with Mercedes, for a brand called Denza, in the following year.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by dylan604 »

resolutebat wrote: post #103
gzer0 wrote: post #65

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And many people forget that BYD's number's are bolstered by the fact that they sell one of their models for less than 10,000 euros. Of course they will have higher numbers at that price point.

And this is a problem because...? Tesla's building their cheap car too, but it will not launch until 2025 earliest.

What is "cheap" in terms of Tesla? From my understanding of issues with modern Teslas at full price, I'd hate to see issues when they start cutting corners to make "cheap".

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Post by __m »

belltaco wrote: post #69
diggan wrote: post #54

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> If you are world #2 in your field of work do you consider yourself a failure and that you fucked up? That's a sad existence. Personally, I wouldn't, I don't care what "position" I'm at, as long as I have enough. But I'm fairly sure that Musk would take that as a failure, especially if you've been #1 for a bunch of quarters and suddenly you aren't. (Musk has repeated many times that he wants Tesla to be the biggest…

Musk and Tesla opened up EV patents to help other car companies make and sell EVs, more EVs are getting into the hands of people so that's a good thing. https://sustainablebrands.com/read/behavior-change/tesla-ope...

Under the condition that Tesla can use their patents in return.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by moffkalast »

m3kw9 wrote: post #12

This is a level above companies marking suvs as off-road vehicles, now can float on water 30min before sinking.

I'm really puzzled by the 30 min part, things either seal or they don't. I wonder if it's a genuine limitation or just another one of those standards where devices are tested for 1 hour at 1 meter depth and that's what they advertise.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by moogly »

starbase wrote: post #99
diggan wrote: post #2

Seems like BYD has surpassed Tesla as the biggest EV maker as of the end of 2023: https://www.ft.com/content/716c9b0b-d8cd-491a-a91b-d70c1e540... ( https://archive.is/LOiYh ) I'm guessing that Musk's unwillingness to work with the rules and norms in the markets Tesla is trying to enter, will be Tesla's downfall. Hopefully Tesla could somehow get rid of Musk as it seems like he is constantly holding Tesla back quite a…

Important detail: BYD's "EV" sales numbers include gasoline-electric hybrids.

Not anymore. That was the thing the last time this was (erroneously) reported.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by manmal »

kccqzy wrote: post #59
Etheryte wrote: post #17

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This is a stat that people keep bringing up while completely ignoring the fact that many of BYD's vehicles are not marketable outside of China because they're just rip-offs of other manufacturers' vehicles. See BYD S8 [0] and Mercedes-Benz CLK-Class [1] for one example, but there are numerous. This should tell you everything you need to know about this company. [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BYD_S8 [1] https://en.…

You are choosing an example from more than a decade ago, at a time when not even Chinese people chose BYD vehicles. To wit the S8 sold 103 units. Things have changed. You are ignoring the fact that plenty of BYD's vehicles are already marketed and sold in Europe, other Asian countries, and Australia.

In Austria, they have begun winning contracts with public agencies. Their offering is just good, not least due to their top notch battery tech.

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by dylan604 »

Zetobal wrote: post #71

The first time I have seen AI generated images being used by a big brand like BYD. The cars are still CGI but the backgrounds are AI generated.

I just assumed it was a really really big car when compared to a horse. It must provide ample head room for a human if that's the ratio. I guess it could be a Shetland pony or something if I were to be generous, but of course it's just bad AI.

https://carnewschina.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/09/04-Yangw...

Re: BYD's YangWang U8 launched, can float on water for 30 minutes and sail 3km/h

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Post by manmal »

gambiting wrote: post #53
VBprogrammer wrote: post #26

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Yeah, I doubt we'll ever see on in the UK because of licensing issues. That said, it's also range extended so 50kWh is ample. I would hazard a guess it would do about 100 miles on battery alone.

It literally says in the article - the EV only range is 180km(about 110 miles), the fuel tank is 75 litres, giving it a combined range of 1000km(600 miles). Tbh that's an awful combined range and it shows how heavy and inefficient the car is. My Volvo XC60 PHEV only has about 50km EV-only range, but combined with its 75 litre tank it can easily do 1000km, no problem.

Both can do 1k km on 75l, so apart from the Volvo‘s smaller battery, where‘s the difference for the end user? I think it’s a waste of materials to build such cars, but given the weight the consumption seems impressive.
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