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Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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I honestly thought this was a joke since the key icon seemed like a female menstruation pad to me. Oh, how times have changed.

At least it will have a new purpose once the AI bubble bursts...

Yeah, we can map it to "order a 500-pack of tampons on Amazon Prime."

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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> Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

To point out the obvious, no, it won't. Microsoft does not define what a PC is. Sure, they can make up whatever fanciful hardware requirements for their own operating system that they want to, and they can force whatever absurdities they want into contracts with manufacturers. But I guarantee my PC will not have a keyboard with this key.

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Tangentially: The reason Windows is more popular than Linux is because of momentum / existing familiarity and because Microsoft employees are paid to do the annoying work needed to finish that last 5% of the user experience.

As we approach the entire OS being accessible and controllable through a voice interface / LLM, well, that's pretty fun and sexy and is something that open source contributors are more willing to work on. If the Windows interface is "just talk to the computer", and the Linux interface is "just talk to the computer", why wouldn't people switch to Linux? If Grandma can use Linux as well as Windows, why not use Linux?

Sometimes it feels like were converging on AGI faster than we are a universal GUI library.

(Insert joke about the year of Linux.)

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, customers are part of the hype feedback loop. I have seen actual conversations with non-tech workers that boil down to "when we ask these people what they want AI to do, they say they don't know, but boy do they get excited every time we mention adding AI"

Are customers really asking for AI soda flavors, tho? https://us.coca-cola.com/products/coke-creations/y3000-limit...

I wonder if they just pasted their recipe into ChatGPT and asked “how can I make this taste better?”

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> Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards To point out the obvious, no, it won't. Microsoft does not define what a PC is. Sure, they can make up whatever fanciful hardware requirements for their own operating system that they want to, and they can force whatever absurdities they want into contracts with manufacturers. But I guarantee my PC will not have a keyboard with this key.

> But I guarantee my PC will not have a keyboard with this key.

... And 99% of PCs around the world, will, which is indistinguishable from "requiring" it.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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> Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards To point out the obvious, no, it won't. Microsoft does not define what a PC is. Sure, they can make up whatever fanciful hardware requirements for their own operating system that they want to, and they can force whatever absurdities they want into contracts with manufacturers. But I guarantee my PC will not have a keyboard with this key.

They do have enough weight in the PC market to create some kind of “Made for Windows” program which would stand a good chance of swaying the keyboard manufacturers, who would no doubt love an excuse to get everyone to buy a new keyboard.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

>Just tried Windows + C on my Win 10 machine; it brings up a dialog that helpfully informs me "Cortana in Windows as a standalone app is deprecated." smirks I'm sure this button will share the same fate come 2030, 2034. That said, I'm curious what GNOME and MATE will do with it -if anything.

Maybe Space Cadet style modifiers will make a comeback!

I'm surprised it's not easier to find HYPER key caps to replace CAPS.

I've been binding my caps to escape for a decade. There was a moment there where ChromeOS pointed out the vestigal nature of the caps key, and a blog post went viral in hacker circles about the history of the Hyper key. I ran Karabiner until Apple added ESC binding to Preferences.

I can chord Esc+A and ESC+S to Quick Open and Command Palette (respectively) in my editor, and then I get an easy escape key for the rest of the time.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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> Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards To point out the obvious, no, it won't. Microsoft does not define what a PC is. Sure, they can make up whatever fanciful hardware requirements for their own operating system that they want to, and they can force whatever absurdities they want into contracts with manufacturers. But I guarantee my PC will not have a keyboard with this key.

They do have enough weight in the PC market to create some kind of “Made for Windows” program which would stand a good chance of swaying the keyboard manufacturers, who would no doubt love an excuse to get everyone to buy a new keyboard.

I wonder if there's some deal attached to the use of the Windows logo on the Super key - to put a Windows logo on one, you have to put the Copilot logo on the other.

I also wonder how wired Windows users are to the Windows logo on the key. Being a Mac guy, I actually don't know the history of the Windows key.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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This impression feels dishonest. They link a video from microsoft[0] which shows a copilot key on the bottom row left of the arrow keys. Here's a diagram

... [space bar] [alt] [copilot] [left arrow] ...

Every keyboard I own already has a key here that I don't use. Right of spacebar: on my logi keyboard I have [cmd/alt] [fn] [opt/ctrl]; on my Code keyboard I have [alt] [blank] [fn] [ctrl]; on my actoo international I have [lang switch] [alt] [fn] [menu] [ctrl]; on my Air I have [cmd] [option]. I can dig out more if this isn't sufficient. Only in rare circumstances have I ever used any of these keys. I rarely ever use the windows key on the left side either (tbf I mostly am mac or linux but even on work computers I don't).

The title, subtitle, and article make it sound like there's going to be a keyboard layout change when really all I'm getting is that they're going to change a keycap. Doesn't seem insane to me, especially considering a lot of the comments around here.

[0] https://youtu.be/S1R08Qx6Fvs?t=5

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