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Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by hulitu »

righthand wrote: post #36
kpozin wrote: post #9

What about the MS Office key and Emoji key? Those were definitely added after 1994. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/using-the-office-k...

Also they added a Cortana key a few years ago. It must be in the press release because other media sites are reporting the same thing. Also Microsoft did not invent the Super/Meta key aka Windows key.

> Also Microsoft did not invent the Super/Meta key aka Windows key

AFAIK the Windows key generates a CTRL + ESC - so not a modifier key like Super/Meta.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by orthecreedence »

nbzso wrote: post #130

I gave my friends the following advice. Push yourselves away from AI trend tools and learn what is what before falling into this trap. In the era of AI those who can think, draw, write, code and be the best in their craft without it will rule the rest. Simple and clear. Prompting is not a skill which will differentiate (except for AI devs, as a part of fine-tuning the model's output). The real danger of AI is not get…

Nevermind that hailing this machine -- owned by some faceless profit-driven entity -- as an "expert" of all fields will eventually leave people open to mass manipulation on an even higher order than search engines already do.

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Post by floxy »

dijit wrote: post #166
floxy wrote: post #147

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The Logitech K860 keyboard doesn't have the Windows logo on the Windows key. It has "opt" and "start" along with undecipherable half-a-stew-pot icon: https://www.imore.com/ergo-k860-split-ergonomic-keyboard-rev... ...mostly just posting this to hear what others might think that icon represents.

That symbol represents an alternative and indicates the function of the key. Its used on Apple computers. IE: alt

Ah, so it is maybe graphically similar to the double-throw switch schematic symbol.

https://wiringengineabt.z19.web.core.windows.net/double-pole...

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Post by ryandrake »

Arainach wrote: post #105
asdff wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Its not even microsoft its everyone and their grandmother pushing AI this AI that crap. Really language model this language model that, but we've perverted what AI actually means to the public already so that's great too for technological literacy purposes.

To be fair, customers are part of the hype feedback loop. I have seen actual conversations with non-tech workers that boil down to "when we ask these people what they want AI to do, they say they don't know, but boy do they get excited every time we mention adding AI"

The new "blockchain". We don't know what problems we want to solve, but we sure know that we need to solve them with AI!

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Post by swozey »

olyjohn wrote: post #141
EduardoBautista wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How is that they thought adding a keyboard shortcut to open LinkedIn would be good use for a new key?

Because people will accidentally push the button and be sent to LinkedIn. Good for their stats. Computers are no longer being built to do what you want them to, but what the software maker wants you to do with them.

I cancelled Netflix years ago. I just got a new Shield TV remote with only a Netflix button and it is constantly getting hit. I probably hit it 5+ times a night. I wonder what they learn from that.

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Post by [deleted] »

asdff wrote: post #101
jjordan wrote: post #6

The way Microsoft is pushing AI literally everywhere now feels reminiscent of circa 2001 when literally everything was branded '.NET'. Eventually they scaled it back, but it was complete overkill and diluted what the brand was supposed to represent.

Its not even microsoft its everyone and their grandmother pushing AI this AI that crap. Really language model this language model that, but we've perverted what AI actually means to the public already so that's great too for technological literacy purposes.

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Post by o11c »

layer8 wrote: post #125
kpozin wrote: post #9

What about the MS Office key and Emoji key? Those were definitely added after 1994. https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/using-the-office-k...

Those aren’t real keys in the sense of having their own keycodes, instead they just map to some other key combination. The Copilot key will presumably be similar (?). These “new keys” are unfortunate, and a regular key that you can remap to whatever you want would be more useful.

I for one am highly annoyed at new keys generating a combination, since that means they can't be mapped to some more useful function.

... though I've just realized that with Wayland, detecting key events is quite unreliable since half of them are eaten by the compositor ... oddly, they aren't even reliably eaten ...

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by layer8 »

k8svet wrote: post #149
layer8 wrote: post #125

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Those aren’t real keys in the sense of having their own keycodes, instead they just map to some other key combination. The Copilot key will presumably be similar (?). These “new keys” are unfortunate, and a regular key that you can remap to whatever you want would be more useful.

This so flagrantly stupid. It's easier to make every KB manufacturer integrate special firmware to have one keypress register as another specific one, rather than plumbing it in as a defined new key that Windows registers a handler for???

That’s what MS did with their own keyboards. Maybe they are actually defining a new key code for the Copilot key? It’s stupid either way.

Re: Copilot key will eventually be required in new PC keyboards

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Post by krinchan »

Zandikar wrote: post #30

Honestly, my initial reaction to this was my typical jaded, cynical, anti-MS self, but after consideration - and the key fact that they're replacing a key, not adding one necessitating a new layout - I'm honestly okay with this. does anyone use the menu key (the key that allegedly this will replace)? It's certainly one of the first to go in enthusiast keyboards using non standard 100% layouts, As long as it's not som…

I use a USB foot-pedal mapped to `.
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