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June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
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Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
#162Earlier quoted context omitted.
All of the source code is already available, in CentOS Stream, from which RHEL is built in the first place. What they want to do, is do an exact rebuild of RHEL without having to go through the effort of putting the distribution together themselves, matching the versions that are used in a particular version of RHEL against what is available via CentOS Stream.
And that's perfectly fine under open source licenses. You are allowed to build and redistribute your own binaries. That's both spirit and letter. Don't fall for people making up additional terms that aren't in the license.
It's perfectly fine but it shouldn't be cast as "freeing the source code, unjustly locked down by Red Hat", because it's not.
Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
#163Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am always baffled by people using ubuntu because "free". I get the desire if you want the paid stream. EG, an alternative to Redhat or SuSE as a paid stream. But if you're going to use Ubuntu, why put up with the snaps, the commercialism, the app store, when you can just use debian? Every time I hear a reason why, it makes little sense to me. Even though 95% of Ubuntu is Debian, and Ubuntu wouldn't exist without De…
As a long time Ubuntu user, I figured I'd try Debian a month ago for the same reasons you listed. It's supposed to be 95% the same, so why not. Fresh install, my bluetooth headphones didn't work. Reverted back to Ubuntu and they worked right away. That's my reason for using Ubuntu instead of Debian - I simply don't care enough to bother with these small things.
Yes, Debian prioritizes software freedom, and Ubuntu starts from Debian but prioritizes having the hardware actually work, so while Debian might be just fine and quite stable for servers, probably not the best choice on laptops for most.
Edit: perhaps this situation has improved for Debian now that non-free firmware support isn't hidden, but it's been a while since I installed Debian on a new machine.
Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
#164Earlier quoted context omitted.
Could you be specific? Else it sounds like you're just FUDding it.
My understanding is that since Red Hat restricted the source availability for RHEL, Rocky is using the following loopholes to gain binary compatibility with RHEL: 1. Using OCI images of RHEL (i.e. on Docker Hub) 2. Using cloud server images of RHEL They outlined their plans for this in June of 2023[0]. Red Hat’s official stance is that downstream distros like Rocky or AlmaLinux should be basing off of CentOS Stream —…
So what? Doesn't matter how convoluted the "loophole" is. There will always be a loophole because Red Hat must leave one open, because this is open-source software and it's impossible for them to truly close all avenues to using your RIGHTS under the license.
We should he celebrating people working around DRM, not being fearful of it.
Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
#165Of course they want to EOL CentOS. It was a serious competitor to RHEL
Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
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Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
#167Earlier quoted context omitted.
> Red Hat had given a lifecycle for CentOS 8 with an EOL in 2029 I thought that neither Red Hat nor CentOS foundation gave a lifecycle date for CentOS 8. Can you help me find that lifecycle statement?
https://web.archive.org/web/20201101131417/https://wiki.cent...
It seems that page was written by Christoph Galuschka which was not an Red Hat employee at that time.
Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
#168CentOS stream still exists? So the title should say CentOS 7?
This is the last CentOS, so the title is technically correct. CentOS Stream goes on however.
Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
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Ansys for one https://www.ansys.com/content/dam/it-solutions/platform-supp... Veeam doesn't support CentOS stream or 9, there's been a bunch of things here and there. I notice many are moving to Ubuntu. I had to go through all of our vendors last year, and the nice thing about CentOS was almost everyone supported it. Now there's no 'gold standard'.
It says they support RHEL: "Red Hat Enterprise Linux (RHEL) 7.8, 7.9, 8.1, 8.2, 8.3, 8.4, 8.5, and 8.6 (64-bit)"
It supports old RHEL, but not 9.
Re: June 30th, 2024, will bring the End of Life (EOL) of CentOS Linux (2023)
#170Earlier quoted context omitted.
Another suitable option, which has handled the situation of Red Hat source RPM releases[1] quite a bit better imo, is Alma Linux. https://almalinux.org/ Similar goal, but is working more directly upstream with Red Hat[2] as opposed to the (as I last had read) undisclosed and non-open approach that Rocky Linux has taken. 1: https://www.redhat.com/en/blog/furthering-evolution-centos-s... 2: https://almalinux.org/blog/f…
Yeah Alma is a much better option if you care about the behavior and attitudes of the people behind the project. The Rocky people are antagonistic toward Red Hat and view them as somewhat an enemy (which seems so weird to me as without Red Hat, they couldn't possibly exist). They strictly want to take what Red Hat sells and rebuild and distribute it for free. The Alma people on the other hand view themselves as partn…
But Red Hat is the enemy!
> which seems so weird to me as without Red Hat, they couldn't possibly exist
If Red Hat didn't exist, they wouldn't need to exist. Nobody would need to test their stuff against RH, and nobody would need to run garbage that the upstream vendors only bothered to test against RH.